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08-13-2018, 10:08 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 15
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I may have found the one
After months of searching, I have found a bus that I am seriously interested in checking out.
It's got an allison 2000, cummins 5.9l ISB 210, 25 ft long 2003 bluebird. It's got about 160k miles on it, and they are asking 3400.
I'm looking to make a full time living bus, that can handle the mountains on a regular basis. Does this seem like a good deal, thoughts on the smaller engine (as far as 5.9L goes)
Also it would probably be about 300-500 in a flight to go check it out, depending on if I bought the bus or not
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08-13-2018, 10:15 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Are you talking the Rocky Mountains? I just wouldn't expect it to be a speed demon in the mountains. The trans is lockable so much better than a 545 would be. Go look at it, if it's what you like I would offer them $2500 and see where they go.
The guy who towed my Dakota the other day has a 5.9 in the tow truck. Says he just turned over 1m miles in it and swears by that motor, has the 290hp version.
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08-14-2018, 09:40 AM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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That is getting close to Unicorn status in my book. Definitely check it out.
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08-14-2018, 10:07 AM
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#4
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,707
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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definitely worth checking out, is 2003 past the "53 block", death-dowel-pin, crappy tappett cover era of the 5.9??
nice trans and just take it easy in the mountains with any bus.. its a road-trip not a road-rally..
-Christopher
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08-14-2018, 12:25 PM
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#5
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 233
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84lug
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jibbs
After months of searching, I have found a bus that I am seriously interested in checking out.
It's got an allison 2000, cummins 5.9l ISB 210, 25 ft long 2003 bluebird. It's got about 160k miles on it, and they are asking 3400.
I'm looking to make a full time living bus, that can handle the mountains on a regular basis. Does this seem like a good deal, thoughts on the smaller engine (as far as 5.9L goes)
Also it would probably be about 300-500 in a flight to go check it out, depending on if I bought the bus or not
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Doesn't seam like a bad price. The 5.9 is about bullet proof and its really easy to find a mechanic capable of working on it. Good luck!
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08-14-2018, 12:38 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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The KDP issues are limited to 12v engines found in 1989 to 1998 model years and the infamous "53" blocks were only made from'99 to '01.
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08-14-2018, 01:14 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
definitely worth checking out, is 2003 past the "53 block", death-dowel-pin, crappy tappett cover era of the 5.9??
nice trans and just take it easy in the mountains with any bus.. its a road-trip not a road-rally..
-Christopher
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AIUI, the dreaded "53" block was manufactured in Brazil for the 2000 model year only.
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08-14-2018, 07:23 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Negative...the "53" block was made from'99 to '01 according to Cummins.
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08-14-2018, 07:37 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Negative...the "53" block was made from'99 to '01 according to Cummins.
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Weren't the 2000 model year buses built in 99? Left overs may have been used up in 01. I contacted Cummins and was told by them it was only the 2000 year.
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08-16-2018, 11:48 AM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 15
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Alas, the bus was sold. They had some more that are also currently being checked out to purchase. Finding a bus, working around conflicting work schedules with my mechanic to go check it out, and timing it perfectly so that the bus hasn't sold is proving to be quite the challenge.
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08-16-2018, 01:34 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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If you have patience and somewhere to keep buses you could just do what I do.
I buy em cheap at auction and if I'm not in love then I sell em. I'm on bus #5, but they keep getting better every time I buy one.
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08-16-2018, 01:39 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If you have patience and somewhere to keep buses you could just do what I do.
I buy em cheap at auction and if I'm not in love then I sell em. I'm on bus #5, but they keep getting better every time I buy one.
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I have patience, just a somewhat limited time schedule. Looking to be road worthy and ready to live out of by May 2019. Also getting antsy not having a project to work on
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08-16-2018, 01:42 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Where you located?
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08-16-2018, 01:44 PM
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#14
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Where you located?
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I'm near Tampa, FL. About 25 minutes away!
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08-16-2018, 01:53 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Well if you're ever over here near apopka and want to check out my 2 shorties you can drive em around a bit and get a feel for what you want. Always look forward to meeting new people and talking buses.
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08-16-2018, 02:06 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Hey do we all get a turn to drive your new bus?
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08-16-2018, 02:06 PM
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#17
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Well if you're ever over here near apopka and want to check out my 2 shorties you can drive em around a bit and get a feel for what you want. Always look forward to meeting new people and talking buses.
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Thanks for the invite, that's not too bad of a drive at all, would love to link up sometime!
What kind of shorties are they?
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08-16-2018, 03:01 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Hey do we all get a turn to drive your new bus?
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sure, man!
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08-16-2018, 03:03 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jibbs
Thanks for the invite, that's not too bad of a drive at all, would love to link up sometime!
What kind of shorties are they?
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04 IC CE300 6 window. 2003 pre-egr engine, allison 2000, and the engine is a DT466E.
and the other is a 1999 Thomas 5 window with 64k miles. Its got a Cat 3126 and allison 545.
Both run and you can drive em around the property and maybe even up the road and back.
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08-16-2018, 08:00 PM
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#20
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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what, no picture of the Nuke bus?
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