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Old 02-01-2015, 01:33 PM   #1
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Red face My future skoolie - Design and planning!

So afeter a lot of reading on the forum, i drew what will propably my future skoolie.

Basically, i choose a Ford 450 type bus ( there are plenty of them in my area) for the interior size, windows placement, height of the bus, etc!

So first of all, here the interior with the wood framing and the insulating panel.




I would use 2x3 wood stud for the framing with a 1'' rigid polystyrene panel + spray foam in the ''critical'' area.


For the ceiling, i would put 2 x 1/2'' plywood strip ( easier to curve and adapt to the ceiling)

Not sure yet what to put in the wheel area but i'll figure something

To fix the wood framing to the bus what kind of screw/rivet did you use?





Then, i would put a 1/4'' plywood all over the place ( easy to fit for the curve part and I like the look!). Between the end of the wall and the ceilling, a LED strip would be install on both side of the bus ( probably the only light in the bus)





This is what the final result would look like if everything goes well

I would reuse two of the seat because its easier at the final inspection ( that what i understood!)

I would use old RV part for the kitchen such as the fridge, the sink and probably also the cabinet. I would add a pantry between the fridge and the bathroom wall.

I decide ( and my girlfriend ) to put a double bed at the back with a drawer under, a MDF wardrobe between the seat and the bed plus a shelf between the bed and the bathroom

So this is the floor plan:




I want to know if everything make sens... And also you'r feedback and experience with short bus floor plan!!

Thanks and sorry for my english
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:24 PM   #2
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welcome and rethink the bed idea, crawling over someone to enter/exit bed is major PITA, think about peeing when the other person gets woke up from being crawled on at 2 am
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:32 PM   #3
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I would also add a word of caution to anyone shopping for that kind of bus to be careful to avoid the DREADED 6.0 powerstroke engine. I've been expressly warned by several mechanics to avoid these like the plague.
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Also, door positioning in the loo/bathroom is bad. It's going to be a pain to close the door when you have to use the toilet really badly. I'd suggest a sliding door with a lock or latch. Might want to also get a bigger fridge, if you're planning on long trips.
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Old 02-02-2015, 02:44 PM   #5
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Accordian door takes up little space (3" thickness when folded up). Agree with the bed shoved into a corner. Be aware that RV appliances suck at energy efficency. My 30" home sized range (formerly my home range) uses about 1/3 of the LP that the Class C's 22" RV range uses and cooks far better. I suggest you get an Apt sized range or cooktop. Residential has to comply with energystar. Recreational does not. But I'm assuming this is a weekender setup not for fulltiming in. For fulltime with two people, I suggest a longer bus.
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Is there a particular reason why you want a Type 'A' bus?

Regardless of whether or not it is a Ford or GM chassis you are severely limited in GVWR. Most of those buses have less than 3,000 lbs. of carrying capacity.

Sure you can take a few pounds out when you take out the seats but you will be putting in more pounds in the form of walls, appliances, fixtures, etc.

For the same $$$ you can usually find a decent Type 'C' or 'D' bus that not only has much more interior volume with which you can work but a Type 'C' or 'D' bus will have so much more carrying capacity you will almost never have to worry about overloading the truck underneath.
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:10 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone! That was exactly the reason of the thread, to get those kind of reviews from people with skoolie experience!

For the bed, it was the only ''good'' place that appear to me. I try to move it to many places, try to put it in the center to be able to get in from both sides but I found that it was a waste of space (especially in a short bus). I think we will be able to deal with the incoveniance of jumping over to go to the toilet but i will still try other layout.


For the mechanic, what kind of engine are the best in that kind of bus? I will probably go for a diesel but have no clue which engine i should go with?


The bathroom (especially the door) really buged me !! I didn't think of a sliding or folding door... will take a look at this, probably the best option



And finally, I choose this type of bus because they is plenty of them ( at good price ) in my area.

What are the difference between Class A, B, C...? Didn't know they were classes !

And what are the buses in each classes?
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A big reason so many are CHEAP is that bastard of an engine that no one wants... the 6.0 powerstroke diesel.
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Thanks everyone! That was exactly the reason of the thread, to get those kind of reviews from people with skoolie experience!

For the bed, it was the only ''good'' place that appear to me. I try to move it to many places, try to put it in the center to be able to get in from both sides but I found that it was a waste of space (especially in a short bus). I think we will be able to deal with the incoveniance of jumping over to go to the toilet but i will still try other layout.


For the mechanic, what kind of engine are the best in that kind of bus? I will probably go for a diesel but have no clue which engine i should go with?


The bathroom (especially the door) really buged me !! I didn't think of a sliding or folding door... will take a look at this, probably the best option



And finally, I choose this type of bus because they is plenty of them ( at good price ) in my area.

What are the difference between Class A, B, C...? Didn't know they were classes !

And what are the buses in each classes?
Engines are a matter of opinion and needs, i.e. whether you need more power or speed. Whether you plan to go to an area with a lot of hills or just cruise down the highway.

I've seen shower curtians in place of bathroom doors, so it's all up to what you like. A lot of skoolies love to scavange parts from RVs, so folding doors are common.

The funny thing about buses as far as classes go is they are the opposite of RVs: a class A bus is the smallest, B is midsize and C is a large. Where as a class A RV is big, B is midsize and C is small. There is a class D bus and it is massive.

Good luck in your hunt
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:18 PM   #10
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A big reason so many are CHEAP is that bastard of an engine that no one wants... the 6.0 powerstroke diesel.

So which one should i go with no that i know which one to avoid? ;)

And the price that i saw weere auction buses so maybe not the reason of the low prices!


@Vegan So Class A will probably be too small, but on the other hand i don't want something to big and plan to go On the pacific coast (Canada And US) then back in the land throung different NP ( lot of hiking and stuff like that).

So i don't care for the speed ( need at leat 60-65 MPH!), I care most about the reliability of the bus and the MPG.
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