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Old 03-25-2015, 12:20 PM   #1
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Hey everyone I'm brand new to the skoolie network and have recently bought a 1999 Thomas short bus to convert. I have gutted all the seats at this point and ready to do the interior paint.

My question is the prepping. Do I need to rough up the interior metal that is already painted white and prime it or can I just go over the paint. I am planning on rolling the paint on the inside but spraying the outside when I get there. Any suggestions on this? I could spray the inside if necessary.

When I get to the exterior paint do I need to sand the whole bus down before I paint over the yellow?

I have read many mixed reviews online of some people sanding and some people not sanding both seem to work but I want to do what will look best.

Any suggestions on the paint I use for both interior and exterior? After reading it seems that the rustoleum paint from home depot is the best.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Zack
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:55 PM   #2
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Yes, I'd sand the body down for paint adhesion. If you don't you'll likely have that typical look- the flaking off paint revealing the yellow underneath. Sign of a hasty conversion in my opinion.
I'd roll the whole thing with Rustoleum. Good stuff at $25 a gallon.
What are your plans for the floor?
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:00 PM   #3
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In my experience sanding has always been a good idea when painting anything. On the other hand sanding the whole bus, even a short one, is a major chore.

The general principle behind sanding is you're giving the paint a greater surface area to hold on to. I've noticed a lot of buses have flatter paint either intentionally or due to exposure. Sometimes this means its more likely to show existing flaws in the paint. Most modern day rattle cans do a good job and provide nice cover without sanding so long as you take your time and put down a nice even coat. Then again, sometimes it doesn't, that's why I sand. IMO it looks way nicer that way.

Either way I would definitely degrease the bus before paint.

When I get my shorty I see myself sanding down the areas around the letters, decals, and rails while giving the open areas a light scuffing. That's what I'd do, YMMV.
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:03 PM   #4
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Do you think I need to sand down the whole interior as well before painting over the white?

I was wanting to turn the seats that were in the bus sideways like benches but turned out to be more tricky than I thought unless I bend the seat frame so I might do wood benches on each side. I am thinking about the hardwood laminate flooring for the floor. It is pretty durable and 100% water resistant. Any suggestions on the seating or flooring?
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:07 PM   #5
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The interior probably can just be scuffed.
The exterior lives a much harder life.
Are you getting the stock flooring out?
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:11 PM   #6
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When you say wood benches, I think of something along the lines of this guy's build.

Also, Auburn WA, nice. I plan on actually starting my build up there as well. My lease is up in Arkansas in 2 months.
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:44 PM   #7
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Thanks guys!

- What would you recommend for degreasing the bus? Just paint thinner?

- I will probably take the time and sand the whole exterior if it will make it look significantly better. I will scuff up the inside as well. Do I need a certain type of sand paper for this and on the scuffing should I just use a metal brush?

- You guys would recommend rolling the paint as opposed to spraying it on both interior and exterior?

-I was hoping I could just remove the metal trim on the floor that was there for the walkway between seats and then just lay the laminate hardwood on top of it. Not sure if that will work or not?

- Yes benches just like that but I was thinking about using the seat cushions I have from the other seats and then using the backs of those as well but I also know that those seats can be worth some money so I could sell them and use the money to go a different route?

And its actually Auburn Washburn School District in KS. I'm doing the build in MO.

Thanks again for all of the info really helps!!
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:59 PM   #8
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I use my desktop in the living room on the TV. I misread some things. Oops.

For degreasing, I use mineral spirits. There are paint specific degreasers available too but they're not too different.

You'll probably want sandpaper for auto applications since they're a bit more resistant to build up. I'd go with an 600-800 grit. For rough spots sand with a lower grit 200-400 and work your way up. Exact grit you need will depend on what paint you use.

Roll or spray, it's your choice really. Spray is generally used outside and roll on inside but, when it comes to bus conversions, tradition kinda goes out the window.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:19 PM   #9
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Thanks!

I am planning on using this paint. How would I figure out which grit I need?
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:21 PM   #10
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Thanks!

I am planning on using the rustoleum professional high performance protective enamel paint. How would I figure out which grit I will need?
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