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Old 12-29-2017, 11:06 PM   #671
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... but ... but ... but ... we're all waiting!

GET OUT OF MY HEAD Oopps.....I mean, Take your time CB, just hoping it turns out well 4 u!
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:19 PM   #672
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lovin that gray color on sandy's bus!.. hope the roof will be white though being in florida?

those busses look real similar.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:53 AM   #673
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Tried calling a few times this morning, but I guess no one's there today. Sent the service mgr an email.
Ugh.
Edit- He says he'll have them call me.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:24 AM   #674
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Robin, you said that I believed in unicorns! I'm so excited that I made a good choice. $4,600, no auction. No rust, diesel, great shape. I'm in love with it!

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Old 12-30-2017, 11:15 AM   #675
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They called me back.
Needs new inner and outer timing covers, oil pump, and water pump. I told them I'll do the water pump and just to re-use the old one with a new gasket. I know that water pump is good enough for now, and I can do it in fifteen minutes myself. Its one of the easiest water pumps to replace.
They haven't got anyone there today to finish writing up the estimate, so I won't know anything more till tuesday.
What a crappy design for that front timing cover!

So- anyone wanna bet on what it'll cost?
I'm guessing 5 grand?
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:03 PM   #676
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yukkers!! that ,eans pulling the head I believe!. at least from what the service manual looks like.. the Cam has to come out.. wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??

only way to check that is to measure its clearances..

if the oil pressure is just lower than it should be then there are a whole host of other possible causes for that of which the oil pump can be a factor but not always..
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:08 PM   #677
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yukkers!! that ,eans pulling the head I believe!. at least from what the service manual looks like.. the Cam has to come out.. wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??

only way to check that is to measure its clearances..

if the oil pressure is just lower than it should be then there are a whole host of other possible causes for that of which the oil pump can be a factor but not always..
-Christopher
I'm pretty sure they just do the oil pump while they're in there rather than button it back up with the old one. Fine by me. One less thing to worry about.
If the head is gonna come off, then the head gasket will have to be replaced, so that's one less thing to worry about.
But I wonder if while the head is off, how much $$$ it would be to go ahead and put new orings on the sleeves. Probably unnecessary but I'm curious and would like to replace everything the old coolant came into contact with.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:11 PM   #678
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wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??


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Probably makes sense to change it if they are in there. They are not particularly expensive, unless they break

I wouldn't see that as a dealership creating "busy work" just to charge for it.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:28 PM   #679
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Probably makes sense to change it if they are in there. They are not particularly expensive, unless they break

I wouldn't see that as a dealership creating "busy work" just to charge for it.
With who knows how many miles on it I was going to insist they used a new or reman pump set.
I couldn't find much info about this stuff on the web, but what I did find seemed to indicate that they always put in a new oil pump with this type of repair.
Since the air compressor is driven off a gear in there, I wonder if it has to come out. A reman is only $350 + core so if I could get them to swap the compressor for parts cost that would be awesome.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:46 PM   #680
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True that just like I changed my oil pump this past spring since I had the whole bus in pieces anyway. , it can’t hurt and diesels need to oil well.

This is an issue I never knew affected these engines so late in the game. Thought it was mainly a late 90s issue, very engine has its Achilles .. and we find a lot of those Achilles here since our busses are all used
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