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Old 01-03-2018, 01:33 PM   #811
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Oddly I had a number of people jump down my throat a while back when I said the "E" versions were not as good.

Regardless, the common protocol in this type of situation is to go to the next larger component. In other words since the front and rear plates cost nearly as much as a replacement engine, the smart money is on a direct exchange of engines.

Replacement engines average about $2500, plus whatever else you need. That's a lot better than the $8000 from the dealer on an ify fix since they don't seem to know which engine they're dealing with.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:36 PM   #812
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Nichols RV has storage for 30 days at $35. Get it towed there so u dont get slapped with a huge storage fee from dealer. Even if it takes a few months to get parts/ funds/ people together to fix it, it wont be as big a hit on that wallet. Just my $.02 CB. We all wracking our brains trying to come up with anything that may help. Hell, If i lived down there i would be trying to help in person( enuff ppl and tools can fix almost anything)
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I'll have to see if they allow people to be working on vehicles in there. Namely tearing an engine apart and possibly parting the thing out.

I gotta think about this but don't really have the luxuries of time or money on my side. I was gonna use my credit card for this.
I've made 80 dollars in three weeks. Dead this time of year and most of what I made last year went to buying tools and a van.
Honestly right now, my plan has been to tow it to shauns, try to entertain him as much as possible, and see what I can do. But my gut tells me that the liners/seals are gona go at any time. Unless this front cover problem can cause antifreeze to get into the blowby without it getting into the oil.

I still don't understand why they have my estimate written for an EGR engine. Seems to me that it only serves to make it more expensive.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:39 PM   #813
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Oddly I had a number of people jump down my throat a while back when I said the "E" versions were not as good.

Regardless, the common protocol in this type of situation is to go to the next larger component. In other words since the front and rear plates cost nearly as much as a replacement engine, the smart money is on a direct exchange of engines.

Replacement engines average about $2500, plus whatever else you need. That's a lot better than the $8000 from the dealer on an ify fix since they don't seem to know which engine they're dealing with.
Any "more" engine that what's in it would be over what the Allison 2000 is rated for.
I'm struggling to try and figure out how I'm gonna fix a front cover. IDk if swapping engines and transmissions on this thing would at all be within my budget or skills. I know my limits.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:50 PM   #814
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Nichols RV has storage for 30 days at $35.
Ya hear that Charlie? Get that sucker moved and get the cover off it.

By the by, how cold was it the morning it started pissing coolant? You FL peeps don't do well with gaskets and cold weather. Challenger disaster anyone? I'm old enough that I watched that shiet on tv. I remember the cameras zooming in on the icicles hanging off it. That's gotta be from the liquid oxy right? They aren't actually stupid enough to launch with all that hanging off of there if it isn't supposed to be, are they? They had delayed earlier due to thunderstorms I believe. Sure it costs money to scrub a launch but that's more important. NOPE.

That thing drove from TX just fine. You couldn't see any pin holes. I gots a $1 says the gasket is crap!!


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Any idea on the material and adverse effects of cold on it?

On an unrelated note, I my refused to start at 7 this morning. Went back out at lunch and plugged in the block heater. GFI didn't trip and I didn't see any magic smoke so here's hoping it works.
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Ya hear that Charlie? Get that sucker moved and get the cover off it.

By the by, how cold was it the morning it started pissing coolant? You FL peeps don't do well with gaskets and cold weather. Challenger disaster anyone? I'm old enough that I watched that shiet on tv. I remember the cameras zooming in on the icicles hanging off it. That's gotta be from the liquid oxy right? They aren't actually stupid enough to launch with all that hanging off of there if it isn't supposed to be, are they? They had delayed earlier due to thunderstorms I believe. Sure it costs money to scrub a launch but that's more important. NOPE.

That thing drove from TX just fine. You couldn't see any pin holes. I gots a $1 says the gasket is crap!!


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Any idea on the material and adverse effects of cold on it?

On an unrelated note, I my refused to start at 7 this morning. Went back out at lunch and plugged in the block heater. GFI didn't trip and I didn't see any magic smoke so here's hoping it works.
It was like somewhere in the 50s to 70's I can't recall. Wasn't terribly cold or hot that day I was wearing shorts and t shirt, IIRC.
I watched the Challenger disaster live from the playground at my elementary school.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:10 PM   #816
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Replacement engines average about $2500, plus whatever else you need.
You typically need a core. I don't think I ever looked up this particular engine much less the range of yrs but I want to say I saw the 8.3L reman for $4500 WITH SOMETHING FOR A WARRANTY. 6 months maybe? I don't recall but it's worth searching for your particulars. Certainly easier to pop the front cover off while it's sitting on a pallet.

At $8k you've got to be close to a brand new crate motor. Check all of your options.
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You typically need a core. I don't think I ever looked up this particular engine much less the range of yrs but I want to say I saw the 8.3L reman for $4500 WITH SOMETHING FOR A WARRANTY. 6 months maybe? I don't recall but it's worth searching for your particulars. Certainly easier to pop the front cover off while it's sitting on a pallet.

At $8k you've got to be close to a brand new crate motor. Check all of your options.
For around 8 grand you can get a reman longblock, maybe even with turbo and freshly painted blue oil filter.
But I'm not looking to spend more than a few grand on it at this point.
Its still gonna need thousands worth of other parts like tires, air compressor, fuel tank, etc...
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It was like somewhere in the 50s to 70's I can't recall. Wasn't terribly cold or hot that day I was wearing shorts and t shirt, IIRC.
Hmm, ... I'm sticking with gasket. AL cover on a steel mount? Different contraction rates. Enough to matter? hopefully not but 170k miles and vibrations...

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Damn youngin's. It was during a break in school. I was helping my mom put up decorations or some such in her classroom since I had the day off from HS. I was a junior in Jan of '86.
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For around 8 grand you can get a reman longblock, maybe even with turbo and freshly painted blue oil filter.
But I'm not looking to spend more than a few grand on it at this point.
Its still gonna need thousands worth of other parts like tires, air compressor, fuel tank, etc...
I was thinking the same thing, its not only the money on the engine but everything else that comes with it. Ones you start dropping money on the bus you will feel more obligated to continue to do so.
Good idea to calculate ALL the potential cost to getting in top shape.
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Hmm, ... I'm sticking with gasket. AL cover on a steel mount? Different contraction rates. Enough to matter? hopefully not but 170k miles and vibrations...

Damn youngin's. It was during a break in school. I was helping my mom put up decorations or some such in her classroom since I had the day off from HS. I was a junior in Jan of '86.
Maybe I'm remembering when my brother got in trouble for asking if it was "going to blow up" the first time we watched it after the disaster. But it was a tuesday. Maybe you had a snow day??
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