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Old 01-03-2018, 08:32 PM   #841
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John,

I agree they cant give a full diagnosis without some work.. my point was only that they siomehow know that both timing covers, the oil pump, and other stuff needs replaced without explanation.. somehow they came to that conclusion without taking stuff apart... sure you camnt tell if a liner is leaking without dropping the pan and doing a liner leakdown test.. but the timing covers and oil pump... some kind of diagnosis was already done..

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Old 01-03-2018, 08:54 PM   #842
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John,

I agree they cant give a full diagnosis without some work.. my point was only that they siomehow know that both timing covers, the oil pump, and other stuff needs replaced without explanation.. somehow they came to that conclusion without taking stuff apart... sure you camnt tell if a liner is leaking without dropping the pan and doing a liner leakdown test.. but the timing covers and oil pump... some kind of diagnosis was already done..

-Christopher
I get that Christopher and that's a 300 dollar bill. They have seen it all before so follow the book as you have mentioned earlier, off the hook.
CB should be thankful they didn't rip it apart. Just like surgery, take this part out while they have you on the table.

New batteries today? Good now?

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Old 01-03-2018, 08:56 PM   #843
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Really? Not what you just told Christopher above.

They might cut you some slack hopefully, good luck. Got a new space for it?

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How so????
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:58 PM   #844
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I agree they cant give a full diagnosis without some work.. my point was only that they siomehow know that both timing covers, the oil pump, and other stuff needs replaced without explanation.. somehow they came to that conclusion without taking stuff apart... sure you camnt tell if a liner is leaking without dropping the pan and doing a liner leakdown test.. but the timing covers and oil pump... some kind of diagnosis was already done..

-Christopher
ALL the estimate is for is the front covers and oil pump. That's it. That's even re-using the old water pump.
The oil pump is just a no brainer while you have it that far torn down.
I'm sure this isn't the first leaky timing cover they've seen. I bet they all leak at the same spot.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:03 PM   #845
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I get that Christopher and that's a 300 dollar bill. They have seen it all before so follow the book as you have mentioned earlier, off the hook.
CB should be thankful they didn't rip it apart. Just like surgery, take this part out while they have you on the table.

New batteries today? Good now?

John
yeppers thanks to EC and telling me about Rural King.. Cool as heck store.... 2 new batteries and the bus fired right up.. new driver heater motor too.. now i can run the driver heater on high.. the motor windings were going bad.. would make the wires smell hot.. (found the school had put a bigger breaker in that position.. grr.. ). I never felt so much air come out of the driver heater on that bus before..
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:11 PM   #846
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How so????
If you read back, you said, waiting for a full diagnosis. Not happening for 300$. What else are you expecting for that amount?

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If you read back, you said, waiting for a full diagnosis. Not happening for 300$. What else are you expecting for that amount?

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As in "tell me what exactly they think is broken and why".
All I got was a list of parts that aren't even 100% for my specific engine and now they're charging me about 25% more for the parts than when I called the day before dropping it off..
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:32 AM   #848
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I'll arrange to get the bus out of there today. I can't seem to get anyone there to answer my real questions. Seems like a lot of nickel and diming with the charges and fees, and I don't appreciate getting a quote for an EGR engine, or the parts prices higher than I was quoted by your parts department for my specific engine.
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I think they really do not want to fix your bus and so they estimate very high
in the hope that you will go away. They looked up the maintenance records also. May be they feel that others things might go and do not want the liability to do this major work and have a chance of you bitching about the 0-rings in 6 months. You also do not profile as a good candidate to become a returning customer. Unless they are sitting around fiddling their thumbs they have better fish to fry unless they can make a lot of money in one shot.

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Yup. I kinda knew that going in, but with NO other shops wanting to even touch it my options were/are nil.
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