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Old 01-25-2009, 09:48 AM   #11
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The data plate says GMC but doesn't give a model. GVW on the plate says 5000 front and 11000 rear. I'd be curious to know just what chassis it is if you know.
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Ray's bus looks to be built on the Chevy P30 chassis
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:25 PM   #12
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Hey! No lip smacking or drooling over my bus!! And don't lick the windows!

Soo... Chevy P30... or is it a GMC P30? What do I tell them when I go asking for parts?

I found this Chevy P30 Bus surfing google images:



It is pretty much just like mine.

To offer a bit more relevancy to this thread, I don't know what the gear ratios are and I've only had it up to 50-52 so far, but it's got lots of pedal left at that speed. I expect it'll go faster than I care to go on flat ground. It was a bit sluggish going up the hill to my house but it's a rather steep hill in places.

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:56 PM   #13
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Re: short-bus advice on engine, tranny etc

they all come down the same assembly line the only difference is the title and the emblem, just like a ford lTD and a mercury marquis, only difference is the paperwork.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:31 PM   #14
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Ray i have never seen a bus like that here in BC sort of looks like a wonderbread wagon,i guess? How long is yer bus?(i know its the short bus) ... i like it,i am known for liking the odd ones!
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Old 01-25-2009, 04:30 PM   #15
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I think it's about 20 feet long though I've not measured the outside dimensions. Inside I have 13.5 feet behind the drivers seat to the back of the bus, 91" wide and 6'4" high.

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Old 01-26-2009, 06:42 PM   #16
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Some would say that a short bus is more a state of mind than reference to physical dimensions.

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Old 01-27-2009, 07:36 PM   #17
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Thank you! While it's not very helpful maybe it's closer to true... To someone who has a full length 40 foot bus anything less might be a "short bus". But someone with a 30 footer might not feel like he has a short bus! Mine is only 20 foot but it's the biggest thing I've ever driven. If there is a specific definition of "short bus" I don't know what it is. Anyone else?

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Old 02-25-2009, 11:24 PM   #18
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Some would say that a short bus is more a state of mind than reference to physical dimensions.
Hmm... I'm not sure if that is a good thing or bad...

Ray, I just realized that your bus might be a bit shorter than mine. From the rear of the step to the back of the bus on mine is almost exactly 15 feet.
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P30's tend to have some cool stuff going on transmission-wise. The 4 speeds are typically SM465's, the same granny geared dumptruck transmission that GM used 40 years ago and are tough as nails. Anything newer than about 1986 should have a beef 32 spline output and a hydraulic clutch. 5 speeds tended to be either an NV4500 or a big Clark 5 speed. The Clarks are worth something because it is a heavy, medium duty transmission that comes with the appropriate adapters to go to a Chevy block making them popular with the offroading crowd. Automatic transmissions in the 3 speed variety will be either a Turbohydramic 400 or a TH475. The TH475 is another beef part because it uses straight cut gears on the planetaries making it stronger. It is usually identified by a large parking brake drum on the output though the TH400 could be found this way as well. As for 4 speeds...I've never seen a 700R4 in one, but that doesn't mean they didn't find their way into those trucks. I think you're probably more likely to find a 4L80E or an Allison.
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Ray, I just realized that your bus might be a bit shorter than mine. From the rear of the step to the back of the bus on mine is almost exactly 15 feet.
Yup. Yours is a bit longer than mine by about a foot and a half I'd say. I'm very jealous!!!

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