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Old 01-23-2009, 01:13 PM   #1
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When you say "traditional" front end, short bus, do you mean like a van in the front end or like a "regular" school bus just shorter? There is a world of difference between them.
Yup, yup. Some folks actually consider those "van nose" things to be a bus!!! Every time we see one of them my girlfriend laughs and says "they think thats a bus!"

Seriously... all kidding aside... from a conversion standpoint one big difference is width. My bus is very short but I think it's as wide as a regular school bus. I like the maneuverability the shortness gives me but those extra inches of width let me pack the most into that short space. Others might want the narrower width of a van nose bus to give them even more maneuverability.

I think the van nosed buses also have a bit less heavy duty chassis. This means lighter weight and possibly better fuel mileage. But it will also carry and/or tow less weight.

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Old 01-23-2009, 09:58 PM   #2
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Yup, yup. Some folks actually consider those "van nose" things to be a bus!!! Every time we see one of them my girlfriend laughs and says "they think thats a bus!"
This is coming from someone driving something built on the running gear of a BREAD TRUCK?!?!

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Old 01-23-2009, 10:54 PM   #3
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This is coming from someone driving something built on the running gear of a BREAD TRUCK?!?!
hehe.. You can't have a short bus of any kind without taking this kind of ribbing now and then. I love it

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:04 PM   #4
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This is coming from someone driving something built on the running gear of a BREAD TRUCK?!?!
hehe.. You can't have a short bus of any kind without taking this kind of ribbing now and then. I love it

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This is true. Friends keep calling mine the short loaf. I mean its not even brown...
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:36 PM   #5
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This is true. Friends keep calling mine the short loaf. I mean its not even brown...
Maybe I should name my bus the Bread Bus!

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Old 01-24-2009, 12:21 PM   #6
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Bunny? I'm not a bunny kind of guy.

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Old 01-24-2009, 03:32 PM   #7
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No bunny bread here. How about Wonder Bread? Everyone knows about Wonder Bread!!



I was seriously looking at painting my bus white anyway! Add a few colored "wonder" dots and I'd be set!

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Old 01-24-2009, 09:01 PM   #8
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I'm no expert but I'd say that gear ratio is the bigger factor in top end speed. You can have as big a motor as you want but if the gearing is too low you aint going very fast. From the factory I'm sure they wouldn't put higher gearing than the motor could handle but if you change gears on your own you might end up with too little motor to do the job. So look for gear ratio!

I'm sure somewhere on the forum is a formula for figuring out speed based on gear ratio, tire size, etc... You might find more if you search the forums.

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Assumming 22.5" wheels and normal-sized tires (10R or 11R22.5), you want about a 4.10 ratio for a diesel, maybe 4.30 or even 4.88 for a gasser. Any deeper and you'll have a screaming engine on the highway. The truck I drive at work has 4.11 gears and 295/75R22.5 tires (same diameter +/- an inch as a 10R22.5)...60MPH is 2000RPM.

A shorty with lo-pro tires will need taller gears...example: 265/70R19.5's and 3.54 gears give ~2100RPM at 60.

Seriously, though...Ray's bus looks to be built on the Chevy P30 chassis, same as thousands of motorhomes & Stepvans.
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Seriously, though...Ray's bus looks to be built on the Chevy P30 chassis, same as thousands of motorhomes & Stepvans.
The data plate says GMC but doesn't give a model. GVW on the plate says 5000 front and 11000 rear. I'd be curious to know just what chassis it is if you know.

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