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Old 03-15-2011, 01:32 AM   #141
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Thanks, I love the size of it...

When I was looking at busses the guy that sold me this posted up 6 of them... By the time I got a hold of him and came out to take a look(a couple of days) there were only two left... I really wish now that I had picked up the other one...

It turns sharper than my Chevy Crew Cab did...
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:27 PM   #142
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Got the rest of the exterior lights... Everything is led's except for the uppers that are sealed beam flood type... I had to take the backing plates off and paint them black, the only ones I could find that would work were either chrome or white...

Trying to get everything back together and take it to emissions this week...

Still need to mount the hitch...


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Old 04-27-2011, 06:22 PM   #143
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Re: The Dirtybus...

A HUGE thanks goes out to Dan on another forum... A little while back he PM'd me asking if I wanted any parts off of a motorhome he was scrapping...

I met up with him at his place and there was a lot of usable stuff... Asked him what I could pull off of it and what he wanted for it... He let me and my boys attack the thing and take whatever we needed for a bottle of whiskey...

Stopped by the liquor store on the way home and picked up a half gallon of Sailor Jerry's for trade and started tearing stuff out the next day...

Here's some pics of the goods, there's still a lot of small misc things I have in tubs from the motorhome...

Thanks again Dan...:cheer:


Fresh water holding tank... This might be the one I end up using because of space...



Really nice stove, almost brand new...



Toilet...



Hot water heater and range hood...



A good size propane furnace with 3 vents/ducting...



Water pump...



Fuse box with a long heavy gauge shore power cable...



Double stainless sink with faucet and all the plumbing...



A bunch of water lines and copper propane lines for all of the appliances...



An RV aluminum ladder for the bunks...



And a ton more stuff...
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:28 PM   #144
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Well, got almost all the lights installed... Still need to find backup lights and a light for the plate...


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Old 04-28-2011, 03:14 AM   #145
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Re: The Dirtybus...

I was messing around with google sketch up tonight and put my vision in 3D...

The galley is on the driverside... The driver seat and stairs are in the empty space at the front...










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Old 04-28-2011, 10:23 PM   #146
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I posted this on another forum, so there's some stuff that is explained that most of you already know... If I'm way off base, by all means, please comment and set me straight...

OK, so here's where I'm at...

The lighting system is nuts on this... Everything is tied together threw an emergency type system, kinda like you'd see on an ambulance...

I believe that when I took off the stop sign, it made part of the system not work... I can only get the inside uppers front and back to flash, outside ones wont light off at all... The outside light were red and I think they were tied into the stop sign...

The tail lights work, but they flash with the blinkers...

And none of the marker light come on at all...

When it was decommissioned as a school bus they pulled a bunch of the toggle switches that work the safety stuff... So, there's a ton of loose wires with no rhyme or reason...



This yellow box has the uppers running to it, along with others...




They are coming from this block...




Some stuff goes to this...




And more to this...




At the top is the bottom side of the toggle panel...




Here's the toggle panel... All they left was the wipers and heaters plugged in...





I'm thinking I'll have to take everything apart and trace it all, one wire at a time... And of course, all this has to be done from the outside of the bus... Good thing it's always raining...
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Old 04-28-2011, 11:08 PM   #147
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Re: The Dirtybus...

So, the company(ELS) that makes the yellow box, has been in business since 1995...

My bus is a 1993...

I guessing this system isn't what came with the bus originally... That makes it impossible to find a schematic... That could also explain some loose wires...
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:22 PM   #148
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Photo 1- find wiring information on the B-1 here: http://www.inpowerdirect.com/docs/TB-34A.pdf
Terminal 5 is grounded to negative for power to operate the controller, flasher, and relays.
When the [warning] master switch is turned on, +12 volts is applied to Pin 4, arming the system.
As a driver approaches a stop, he presses the "start" button momentarily applying +12 volts to Terminal 6
This causes power to alternately go out through Terminal 7 [right] and Terminal 8 [left] to flash the warning ambers.
When the bus stops, the driver opens the door, and the door switch grounds Terminal 3.
This causes:
a.) the amber flashers stop
b.) power to the red lamps alternately comes out Terminal 9 [right] and Terminal 10 [left]
c.) power to activate the stop arm solenoid comes out Terminal 1

Turning on the double-pole "override" switch both applies a ground to the door switch terminal, and applies +12 volts to the override terminal.
I speculate that removing the ground from the door switch (closing the door) shuts down the red lights and stop arms, and that the override switch shuts them down with the door still open. Maybe someone who has driven a route can confirm that.

So, if you are looking to re-use the overhead lights, the four heavy wires next to the four 20-amp fuses feed the bulbs through the rusted terminal connections in Photo 2 -. Wire power to re-use the lights to here through fused fog light relays (or perform surgery inside the B-1 to divorce the relays installed on the unit from the flasher circuitry, and re-use the fused relay portion of the assembly). The two small wires probably go to flash the amber and red indicators on your switch panel to advise the driver the warning lights are on.

Photo 3 - This is a group of self-resetting circuit breakers for critical systems that can't tolerate a blown fuse while operating. The cylinder at the bottom of the photo is a solenoid. It is probably either an ignition or accessory solenoid, but it could be the one between the flasher and stop arms, or perform some other function. One of the small wires on the small stud in front goes to the key or control switch, and applies power to activate the solenoid when it is "on." This connects the two big studs together applying power from the batteries to the switched circuits.

I can't see if the heavy wire at the bottom of the circuit breaker assembly comes from this solenoid or someplace else. The heavy wire at the bottom is the hot, inside there is a metal bar up the middle connected to this as a hot distribution buss, and the wires on the right and left come out of the individual breakers to the protected circuits.

Photo 4 - The orange blocks appear to be disconnects to pass various wires through a chassis wall like it would pass through a firewall. The added fuses are mechanics' aftermarket work. They are either band-aids to keep troubled circuits going, or were added to power accessories that were not installed when the bus left the factory.

I hope this helps.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:20 PM   #149
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Thanks for the info...

Hopefully I'll have it figured out this coming week...
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:53 PM   #150
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Re: The Dirtybus...

Oh man! Good luck with all THAT! I recently did some work in my electrical "nest" and eliminated that yellow thing altogether (mine is a different model than yours, but similar in function). I still have a couple non-functioning heaters and only half of my overhead flashers work, but I'm getting there!
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