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Old 09-21-2017, 08:46 PM   #371
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That's a great plan! I will help load Saturday!

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so my thought is ill be at EC's party friday night and stay in orlando (my red bus isnt set up to sleep in) then drive down saturday morning and load the small stuff i still have that fits inside the seats.. 2 long pieces go in the aisles and then the chairs and ottomans (low-modern IKEA stuff) and sit on top across the seats..

then i go back up to EC;s party for saturday evening, and stay in orlando.. drive out for ohio on sunday morning.

any help is GREATLY appreciated!!

I'll also have my computer programmer at the party so anyone who has a 444E / DT-466E and wants their computer read and any changeable parameter altered we can do that

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Old 09-22-2017, 06:48 AM   #372
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so my thought is ill be at EC's party friday night and stay in orlando

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then i go back up to EC;s party for saturday evening, and stay in orlando.. drive out for ohio on sunday morning.
Good deal. We (the gf and I) are getting in to MCO at midnight. Dinner with a JAX buddy and then a hotel. Don't remember what I booked. Need to check my email. So, if we don't see you Fri night, see you Sat.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:05 AM   #373
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im staying at an embassy in orlando - its one of my customers, they are cool and park busses so even though its a haul it works good. plus its on the south side on International drive - on the way to st pete.

my coworkers say things in orlando area have gotten pretty back to normal after Irma, the airport will be busy as people do continue to camp out and return to florida...

WTF am i thinking by moving OUT of florida in damn near october?? I should be staying put..
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:50 AM   #374
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Looks like I sent myself some hotel websites but I'm not finding a reservation. I got busy with my Alaska travel plans and I was still undecided on where to stay.

As for moving to OH from FL in Oct, I'd file that one under "poor life choices".
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Old 09-30-2017, 02:17 PM   #375
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Another note on some of the navistars you can pull your own codes using the blinker switch and ck engine light

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Old 10-09-2017, 03:04 PM   #376
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Another note on some of the navistars you can pull your own codes using the blinker switch and ck engine light

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on this navistar there is a diagnostic button right below the J1708 datalink connector.. and you press that with Key on engine off and it uses the WARN ENGINE and OIL / WATER alarm lights on the dash to flash you the fault codes.. Navistar calls them 'Flash codes' for the DLC engines..

im wondering if the old 3 Box 444E's were done using the blinker switch? (pre 97 HEUI).

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Old 10-09-2017, 03:11 PM   #377
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So today I went back to shredding the data coming out of the various data links.. trying to figure out what is different in my J1939 link between engine / trans with cruise on or cruise off, I suspect that a different shift pattern is called for.. one I may not have access to.. thus i dont get downshifts like I expect..

I started with a device called an HDV100A3 by B&B electronics.. it can talk J1708 and J1939. since J1708 is easily deciphered I started with that interface and can read my MID's and PID's easily from it. these devices are $100 a piece insetad of $400 plus like the VMSpc,

Heavy Duty Vehicle Converters (HDV) & Cables - B&B Electronics

now theres no software.. but I plan to write some software so you guys can use these for a digital dash display similar to mine.. my software will be GPL open source...

the data i captured on J1708 shows me that even though my expensive VMSpc and its designer state that PID 164 (HPOP) isnt sent over by navistar that it is..their POS software just cant read it.. Grrr!!.
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the text notes are mine.. the data from the truck is in HEX..

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Old 10-10-2017, 09:12 AM   #378
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What resource do you use to find the meaning of the IDs? Buy a copy of J1587 from SAE, or watch the data stream while operating the engine and figure out what's what?
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:18 AM   #379
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ive found the PID's in various places.. theres a document which someone wrote about the detroit diesel DDEC IV on a wanderlodge forum which has a lot of them in it and how to calculate the human readable values.. i also found a few in my VMSpc device itself then looked them up via google search..

http://www.wanderlodgegurus.com/data...22%20J1939.pdf



the right way would be to pony up and buy the spec from SAE..

ive found some of the J1939 PGN / SPN stuff the same way.
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:59 AM   #380
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ive found the PID's in various places.. theres a document which someone wrote about the detroit diesel DDEC IV on a wanderlodge forum which has a lot of them in it and how to calculate the human readable values.. i also found a few in my VMSpc device itself then looked them up via google search..

http://www.wanderlodgegurus.com/data...22%20J1939.pdf



the right way would be to pony up and buy the spec from SAE..

ive found some of the J1939 PGN / SPN stuff the same way.
-Christopher

Thanks for the pdf. I can get one of those interfaces/cable you suggested and be willing to help anyway I can.
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