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Old 08-05-2014, 01:11 PM   #11
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Re: The Russbuss, another transit bus conversion ;?D

My opinion- (I'm not so smart though - didn't find this site till after my bus was built) that looks like a lot of stuff to put in a shortie. Before you get too far, I'd get close measurements of all you want and lay everything out with tape on the floor. I'm betting the space will fill up more than you think.
Also Id build a temp rear deck and practice maneuvering around with it - these things have a fair amount of rear overhang from the wheels as it is- adding more would mean even more care needs to be taken.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:01 PM   #12
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Hey SD, yeah it looks pretty well packed in there, but while everything isn't exactly to scale, the small squares are 6" and from the specs on the appliances I believe it will all fit. The cabinets and drawers will be custom built, unless I get really lucky, so they can grow or shrink as reality dictates. Of course the appliance's are my ideal picks, and what I actually end up with could necessitate some minor, or drastic, changes. One thing I do have is my stove and a wall hung gas instant on water heater which may or may not work for this conversion (my fear is that it is too much heater for my needs and could go through propane like **** through a goose, only testing will tell) ;?D

As for the extra length, I believe you are correct that it will make handling, especially turning corners, entertaining to say the least But I do have some big rig xp under my belt and I think it just takes some time behind the wheel until you develop a feel, like your rig is an extension of your body, but again you've always got to keep your mind on task and your head in the game. For practice I could see clamping some 2x4 to the sides the planned length of the deck, and then driving through an empty parking lot using the light poles like a slalom course, lol.

EDIT: One way to ameliorate the problem could be to design the rear deck in an arc or half circle, thus getting rid of the sharp corners that stick out. Hmmm, I think that would look way cooler!!
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:27 AM   #13
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One thing to look for in your teardown is rot around your wheelwells. I got a Champion box also-and one thing they did was fill the gap from Fords partial chassis (steel) wheel wells to their glass curved wall body with a shitload of expandible foam. It catches water and spray from the wheels. My arches were rotted-along with the metal lower body parts. Also look at your back wall-the wood in mine got all wet when the rear body cap leaked.
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One thing to look for in your teardown is rot around your wheelwells. I got a Champion box also-and one thing they did was fill the gap from Fords partial chassis (steel) wheel wells to their glass curved wall body with a shitload of expandible foam. It catches water and spray from the wheels. My arches were rotted-along with the metal lower body parts. Also look at your back wall-the wood in mine got all wet when the rear body cap leaked.
Hey sdwarf, you gotta fix that build link for your bus. I need to steal some ideas..
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:45 AM   #15
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I agree, lol, and yeah SD I've got the same shite under there so guess I'll be in for some added "fun" , ah well, so it goes...
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:17 AM   #16
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Re: The Russbuss, another transit bus conversion ;?D

One more option for having a nice sized rear deck and minimal hangout at the same time...make it a fold up. That is what I'm planning out as we speak on my shorty and it doesn't have nearly the rear wheel overhang yours already has. I just don't want any unnecessary iron swinging around back there. Mine is designed (at the moment) to have a fixed portion that is about 28" plus a fold-up that is around 32". When lowered it will yield a rather spacious 60" (five-foot) area. Plenty of room for lounging with a Margarita. I am also looking at the possibility of a small roll-out canopy overhead to add a little shade. My gennie will sit on one side of the fixed portion but I think that since it so quiet and vibration free (a Honda) once it is boxed in, it can also serve as a cocktail table.

I've seen a couple of builds over the years on which the entire deck raised up, but I need the extra space back there for a couple of things including a place below to hang a spare tire.

Just a thought.
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Old 08-07-2014, 01:26 PM   #17
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So, Tango, are you talking about mounting your spare on the bottom of the folding portion, so that it will be under the deck when the deck is unfolded, and possibly do so with other stuff?
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:57 PM   #18
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Thanks Tango, yeah I have been thinking about limiting the size of the overhang, it could create some problems, like making parallel parking a BITCH, lol. Definitely need a rear camera to avoid disasters . I'll probably make some kind of quick mockup from 2x4's, clamp it on and take her to an empty parking lot and put her through some turning/parking scenarios to see what the swing looks like. That of course before I set the design in stone, or steel in this case.

One reason I wanted the deck to be more permanent is that I may need to store things there (genset is definitely a possibility, but I do like your end table idea ) plus I need to support the upper deck and have a ladder to access it. That said, I can see that I could use your idea, maybe split the deck into a 24" base with another 24" fold up section that would lock in the upright position attached to the support poles for the upper deck which can be shorten to just 2' as well. So thanks again for the food for thought. Everything is still in the planning stages so the more input and critiques of my ideas the better it will turn out in the end.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:36 PM   #19
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I got a good spare tire solution--i'll load up some pics later tonite.
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I've done this twice-and its work great in first a Chevy Cube van + my bus. Theres enough room between the frame rails-and the rear axle + bumper for a spare tire. I took the idea from a pick up's spare.
I bought a cheapie boat winch from ebay.

I welded a plate to a cross brace. ( pic shot from right rear corner)

To change the direction of the cable, I used a snatch block.



This piece goes thru the hole in the rim + under it to lift the tire.

I found it easier to prop the tire up on a board to get under it.



Turn the crank + winch up the wheel. I have a safety chain + put a rachet strap on it to be safe.


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