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Old 07-17-2019, 07:29 AM   #31
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I had a classmate in college that was planning something similar. He was kind of a hillbilly and had experience in making moonshine before.

I'm a figures type person, so before he got too involved, we calculated up what it would cost per gallon to make the moonshine.

We came to the conclusion that it was easier and he'd be money ahead if he'd sell what he made as moonshine, then it was to burn it as fuel.

The only reason corn ethanol works as a viable fuel in the USA is the subsidies they receive for doing it and the scale they're doing it at.

Sugar Cane would work better for it, but that's not farmed to the same scale as corn is.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:43 AM   #32
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Biodiesel (and liquid soap for that matter) can be economically produced from waste vegeable oil. However it takes a processor, time, and dilligence to keep up the production needed to be a reliable fuel source. In the US, you are limited to something like 10,000 gallons per year produced for fuel before taxes are levied.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:42 AM   #33
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I agree with hazmat about the quantities not being a guesstimate. I have a still and the quantities are correct. Another thing you can ask any serious drag racer is it takes twice the volume of alcohol to get the same power output of gasoline. There are other advantages to alcohol for racing but cost is not one of them
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:24 PM   #34
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I should have said I agree with hazmats agreement with cmorganskool figures
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:08 AM   #35
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Stills are so cool. I’d really like to mess around with one. Maybe build a more efficient wood stove such as a rocket stove batch heater and use this as a cogeneration unit for space heating and alcohol. I’ve tried biodiesel and veggie oil. What a mess!! Yucky stuff to collect, store, and dispose of. My supplier kept dumping water and gross stuff in it. With fuel one needs a reliable source obviously.
I have a trailer I was going to put a bunch of energy stuff on. I wouldn’t even consider it inside my bus. I still may do the energy trailer and a small still just for fun.
There’s a huge book I bought called Alcohol is a Gas that shows many projects with alcohol worldwide. Fun book to read. Good illustrations.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:26 PM   #36
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Try woodgas! I had my Toyota truck running off a home made unit I built from junk after watching YouTube videos. The spectrum of possable fuel sources is huge!
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