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12-13-2018, 11:27 AM
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Bus Geek
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Fuel your bus with Walmart bags :)
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12-13-2018, 12:16 PM
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Bus Crazy
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So, if I have this right. You shred the plastic, takes energy. You boil the plastic in a vacuum. Both of those processes take energy. You then distill it, takes more energy. Is there actually a net gain?
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12-13-2018, 12:30 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
So, if I have this right. You shred the plastic, takes energy. You boil the plastic in a vacuum. Both of those processes take energy. You then distill it, takes more energy. Is there actually a net gain?
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I read a number of articles and it sounds like it takes about 7% of the produced energy to support the process.
Some versions use captured gasses from the process to produce the needed heat. A little energy from outside to get it started and then it is self sustaining.
They are claiming production of 1 liter of fuel for every kilo of plastic.
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12-13-2018, 12:59 PM
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Bus Geek
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sounds interesting... be neat to know what the machine is like and its life expectancy / required maintenance.. seems it would be a rather simple condensing and separation by density type thing...
-Christopher
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12-16-2018, 04:32 PM
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Bus Nut
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I'm still a little skeptical - but then again, compared to the scale of the problem we're facing, it's an interesting option - even if it's not perfect, it's something.
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12-17-2018, 12:54 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
I'm still a little skeptical - but then again, compared to the scale of the problem we're facing, it's an interesting option - even if it's not perfect, it's something.
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I agree.
Turning a big problem into a smaller problem is progress.
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12-17-2018, 01:20 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I agree.
Turning a big problem into a smaller problem is progress.
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agreed.. tell the hard-core and the politicians this and we'd be doing much better at this stuff in the USA..
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12-17-2018, 01:30 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
sounds interesting... be neat to know what the machine is like and its life expectancy / required maintenance.. seems it would be a rather simple condensing and separation by density type thing...
-Christopher
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A great big fleet of diesel powered floating combines, with diesel wagons and floating tractors taking it away to the refinery....
What an engine test that would be, Cummins vs CAT vs all the big boys in diesel.
24 hrs/day for as long as it takes
John
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12-18-2018, 12:08 PM
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Bus Geek
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12-26-2018, 04:46 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
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Here’s how to tell if it’s viable . . .
If the inventor ends up dead, discredited, sued, or otherwise trampled out of existence by the Deep State (through our “legal” system), you will know it was/is legit and viable. The oil companies will never let this fly.
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