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Old 05-21-2016, 06:14 PM   #11
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There are a lot of really nice looking CNG buses for cheap usually. Most people don't have access to a CNG fueling station. In cities you can get a CNG compressor that fills your car, so it's possible to do that with a bus too if you can find one of those home fueling compressors.
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:37 PM   #12
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:02 PM   #13
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https://youtu.be/_bRVhyNX9xM

That's pretty bad ass. 13 cents per mile to operate and it can support a small power grid during power outages. Bad news is it's going to take at least 30 charges for you to get across the US. 100 miles at a time.

And they will convert older buses.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:08 PM   #14
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:40 PM   #15
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Cincinnati has some hybrid buses, they cost about $150,000 more than a normal bus, the estimates are that they will save a whole $8000 in fuel over their life span, not worth the effort

another company is rebuilding old transit buses as electric buses and they cost about the same as a new transit bus and have about a 120 mile range, so good for an 8 hour shift in most cities, I think we will see many of these in the future

yeah columbus had them too... are cincy's the gilligs? thats what ours were.. my COTA driver friend said they had to run them for 10 years to keep the grant money unless they completely failed or were destroyed due to accident, fire, etc... I know most of them were up last year and they dumped all but the 2.. which I think are this year or next...

does dayton still run the electric busses? although those werent battery they were more trolleys on overhead wires but they were not on rail tracks...

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Old 05-21-2016, 07:51 PM   #16
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Hi, I was just throwing this out there. Of course I'm going to convert my bus first. But. Is it possible to replace and rewire the engine to make the bus a hybrid, and if so how. If you can id like a ballpark on how much it'd cost. I'm really new at this and want to make my bus eco friendly because I feel bad driving a Diesel engine. So if you could help me out with that I'd appreciate it!

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Welcome to our community(I'm new as well), If eco friendly is your concern, I think you should look into vegetable oil conversions, the conversion is relatively simple (but complicated enough for me not to bother) and will be eco friendly as you desire, also you'll still be able to use regular diesel if you don't have any vege oil around.

Most importantly, there are many people who have done it in many kinds of diesels and skoolies, which means you'll be able to find a lot more resources and guidance to help you with a "how to". The basic WVO(waste vegetable oil) concept is that when heated, vegetable oil has very similar properties to diesel and can run a car, so you use a heating element (perhaps your rear radiator?), to heat the oil and then you flick a switch which pumps that into your engine. I am not an expert though, you'll obviously have to look into this on your own.

That said, using the oil as not as simple as pouring it into your gas tank (unless you use new virgin oil), you have to go through a time consuming cleaning process to filter out all of the gunk.

I met a guy who had a diesel van converted into a WVO van, and it was a pretty slick setup, I stuck my face by his exhaust for a solid 15-30 seconds and I still don't have cancer. FYI: he said his setup cost about 1,000.

edit: If you're serious about doing mechanical changes to your vehicle like this, I think it would be wise to do this BEFORE your conversion. That way if your vehicle decides to disappoint you, you'll be less committed to it.
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Hi, I was just throwing this out there. Of course I'm going to convert my bus first. But. Is it possible to replace and rewire the engine to make the bus a hybrid, and if so how. If you can id like a ballpark on how much it'd cost. I'm really new at this and want to make my bus eco friendly because I feel bad driving a Diesel engine. So if you could help me out with that I'd appreciate it!

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I don't want to sound like a jerk but I will to get my message across with as few words as possible.

Forget about the bus and buy yourself an all electric Fiat. A hybrid engine for a bus runs about $250,000. I haven't read all the posts so I don't know what else has been said but forget about being eco friendly an driving a bus. Anyone that says different is a LIAR, plain and simple. So park your ridiculous ideas and join the skoolie movement or don't. Just stop with the fairytale notions.
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It does sort of seem like an oxymoron... An ecologically friendly bus?! Lol
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[but I think you got some honest and valuable advice]
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