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Old 01-16-2009, 11:41 PM   #21
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Maybe if you use beer instead of water.
But most domestic beer IS water. Once we start importing all the hearty stuff, we might run into OBEC (Organization of Beer Exporting Countries) embargoes that will threaten our national security!
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:06 AM   #22
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

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Maybe if you use beer instead of water.
But most domestic beer IS water. Once we start importing all the hearty stuff, we might run into OBEC (Organization of Beer Exporting Countries) embargoes that will threaten our national security!
Correction. Most domestic beer is water filtered through a horses kidneys.

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Old 01-17-2009, 04:00 PM   #23
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I knew those Clydesdale's served another purpose.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:49 PM   #24
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why not just use the clydesdales to pull the bus?
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:16 PM   #25
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

just dont feed the horses the beer! as we all know you can lead the horses to the water......
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:26 PM   #26
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But we can run the horses on water, so it is possible to power a bus with water. Problem solved. Time for a beer.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:52 PM   #27
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why not just use the clydesdales to pull the bus?

then you can claim that you can run your bus off of grass.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:45 PM   #28
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run the bus off of grass and water with beer as a byproduct,
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Old 01-20-2009, 02:32 PM   #29
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

This thread is weird.

A 'hydrogen generator' is another name for a hydrogen electrolysis system that does not transfer the gases produced to a storage vessel. Unless you have the right materials and knowledge, you just do not want to store hydrogen. It can be fatal with no warning whatsoever and unfortunately is far too often fatal even with well tested safety equipment and knowledgeable users.

These vehicle based 'hydrogen generators' run off the alternator and create a constant stream of fuel for whatever system you are using. Alternators with a heavy load (like the immense one required by a 'hydrogen generator') create higher resistance for the engine and of course drive up fuel consumption. The loss of fuel in creating this stream of hydrogen is not recovered in improved fuel efficiency. In fact the energy loss in converting energy to different forms is significant. If you have an alternator that runs as if it has max load at all times this could be seen as a fuel saver, but not as effective as a new alternator....


It would be as practical as using the engines water pump to power a water-wheel that adds power to the drive-train, or mounting a windmill on the roof for the same function. It's just silly.

BTW The most common use for hydrogen electrolysis is to isolate hydrogen for lab systems, ceramics, rocket fuel, etc. It is a highly inefficient and risky process.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:05 PM   #30
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Earlier this month I signed off on my employer's first hydrogen tank rental bill: $3300 for 44 cylinders. (Government rate - Our share of 60 cylinders) I "can't wait" for the bills when the gas is refilled!
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