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Old 01-21-2009, 01:28 PM   #31
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

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This thread is weird.



It would be as practical as using the engines water pump to power a water-wheel that adds power to the drive-train, or mounting a windmill on the roof for the same function. It's just silly.

excellent post!
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:53 AM   #32
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

I'm new here and I didnt read the whole thread, just kind of knew where it was going, I just have a background in researching alternative fuels so hoped I might be able to comment something useful.


Hydrogen as we know it right now isn't really a fuel, it's a battery. It takes more energy to create the hydrogen than you get out of it burning. Even if made by solar it isnt free, you'd have more luck running DC motors from the solar panels, and a bus is so heavy this seems unfeasible. How fast would it move off the 5hp you might get covering the whole bus in probably $30,000 of panels?

I dont know of any practical way to run anything off water as a FUEL, only a way to use hydrogen as a somewhat poor but still occasionally useful battery. (energy density should be vastly better than batteries, efficiency in converting the electricity of electrolysis or the money for chemical precursors into power far worse)

Nearly all the "fuel your car from WATER!" sites are a scam, most of the rest of them are probably a scam, and the rest of them are horribly misrepresented and amount to something like a scam. Sure you can fuel your car off tap water. You can put in 100kw of electricity and get out maybe 30kw of internal combustion power, instead of 80-90kw you'd get from battery banks. Even with perfect electrolysis internal combustion engines arent that thermodynamically efficient. And chemical sources would be so expensive for the small amount of hydrogen that $8/gallon gas is probably far cheaper.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #33
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

That is more for a small soldering torch. I hope you are camping for a year between driving.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:44 PM   #34
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

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mightybus wrote:It is very easy to produce hydrogen
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mightybus wrote:It is very easy to produce hydrogen
incorrect
the hydrogen bonds in water take an inordinate amount of electrical energy to break for the return on that investment
Ice Czar you must be an idiot!!
Ever charge a lead acid battery?
Next time you do, stick your head down there and what ever you do don't light a match.
Hydrogen is easy to produce like mighty bus said, although it might not be very efficient compared to other storage mediums. I don't see where mighty bus was talking about efficiencies.
Your hot water heater, if electric, produces hydrogen gas also, dolt.
Are you actually trying to come across as a retard?
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:50 AM   #35
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

Then again there is the fact that most folks here don't take kindly to calling someone an idiot or retard.

Please keep in mind that we all have different ideas and opinions about a vast amount of subjects, and the fact that we can disagree with someone or something without pulling down our pants and showing everyone our ass is the reason this forum is so well thought of in the entire skoolie community.

Think About It Newbie.
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Old 10-04-2009, 02:54 AM   #36
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

While some of us DO ride in Short Buses, I would say that they are some of the smartest people I have ever met. It takes alot of brains to think of solutions to cramming all the stuff that they get into such a small place.

Plus, its just rude to insult anyone who might have the answer to that problem that you havent figured out that you have yet...

...whats the saying... "Rebuilding Bridges is alot harder then burning them"... or was it "Never wiz in a well you might have to drink from"...
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:44 PM   #37
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

Also....."Never whiz on your fire, when it pops you will get burned in a very bad spot"
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:52 AM   #38
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Wizzing into the fire isnt that bad, just stand back a little and arc the stream in... But the smell is horrible. And anyways, if your going to play with fire, You might as well toss in a quarter. From what I have been told, it will turn the fire colors... but why waste the quarter.

Chuck a handful of sugar on the fire, while you stand a foot or two back from it... Non-dairy powdered creamer works too. I use to do this by poring the little packets over a lighter flame. Never did loose my eyebrows... but I admit that I light my left palm on fire with a "Hyper Boosted" Lighter while trying to "Throw a Fireball"... how was I to know that it was shooting liquid instead of gas...

...although, the look on my friends face when I opened my hand and my palm lit off was priceless. I remember muttering about "Burning Palms"...
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I remember hearing a story about the Host guy from the Survivor program wizzing on an electric fence in Australia... Something about how he was walking around the "Crew" camp and needed to go... He remembers standing there, then wondering why he was laying down.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:52 PM   #40
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Re: Running my gypsy bus off of water!

Newbusser, I apologize.
I do feel he is a sociopath with delusions of grandeur. Maybe I'm wrong, in which case another apology is in order.. I feel he is a compulsive liar as the only pictures of his bus were copied images from ebay. You'd think he would have the technology to post a few real pictures. But nooooooo. The stupid metal candleholder and sculpture is the same one he posted on the internet three years ago on another web site. I could be wrong. Google his nic and see what you come up with. I do believe he is a passionate sociopath though. Again, I apologize if I have offended anyone.
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