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09-20-2016, 01:25 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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1949 Brill Bus
Well, you can probably guess... I made a crazy decision...again...
So it started out innocently. I was just casually surfing Craigslist, like I often do, when I thought, it been a while since I looked at what buses were for sale in the area. So I typed three fateful letters into the search bar.
And there she was. In all her glory with no dents no rust, aluminum body gleaming in the sun. Sure there's a couple broken windows, but they are all flat!! So I did it.
Here's the scoop:
Cummins turbo 220
Five speed air shifted manual tranny
Two speed rear end
Fully gutted.
Gauges, headlights, signals, etc, recently rewired
Tires: moderate to excellent
So after hearing it run and putting it in gear and reverse etc. I crawled around everywhere. Wow there's almost no rust under this thing, and it would
Appear they used a tubular chassis which surprised the hell outta me. The condition is astounding. I had to do it. I'll be going back to drive it home with a follow vehicle tomorrow and I couldn't be more excited.
Now I know none of you guys follow me on Instagram, so I guess I might actually post some photos of this one for you to drool over. Also if you wanna check out my most recent trip in my bus, I got some good pics and vids posted on my Instagram. You just gotta scroll past the more recent stuff
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09-20-2016, 08:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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OMG! We GOTTA see some pix!
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09-20-2016, 08:24 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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oh yes!!! that sounds like a kickass cool bus!! cant wait to see the pics!!
-Christopher
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09-20-2016, 12:39 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Kinda like this one?
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09-20-2016, 11:24 PM
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#5
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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I'm in the process of uploading some photos now. You will have to find it in your heart to forgive the "creative individual" who must have installed what appears to be a full size Home Depot quality house window
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09-20-2016, 11:25 PM
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#6
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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That appears to be a nearly identical model!
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09-21-2016, 01:49 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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Anybody got any idea on what model 5speed and airsshifted module would be on this thing? Ha. I've never worked on anything like it. The shift tower looks like it came from A steampunk spaceship.
The rear brakes are locked due to corrosion and not leaky air system, this was known to me already. Hence why I can not yet drive it, i thought I would be able to get them freed up today, and limp home in front brakes, but I am having trouble getting he transmission into neutral, it seems to go into every tear, but even in the neutral position, if you let the clutch out, the driveline loads up. I have popped the lid off the airsshift mechanism and the internals all appear to be pristine. Could this be simple lack of lubricant?
Anyone know a very reasonable heavy tow service near cave junction Oregon?
Also my uploads keep failing errgh
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09-21-2016, 09:07 AM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,678
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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Boy oh boy good luck with this one. I've never even heard of the company before today, and a Wikipedia article says they went defunct in 1954 .
I'd have to assume the transmission wouldn't be a house design so look for a tag or something indicating fuller or eaton or meritor or something of the like. If any of those companies were manufacturing transmissions back then.
This thing is so old that sadly most of the mechanics who would have experience have passed away.
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09-21-2016, 11:01 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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Well the airshIft mechanism is fairly simple. 2 Pneumatic cylinders, on an x and y axis recreating what a normal shift lever would do. It's is an add on to the top of a normal transmission. I am genuinely considering driving the bus home as a team, one up front driving, one in back shifting. I feel confident in
My
Ability to repair this bus. Brakes can be relined. Airlines can be replaced, air compressors can be replaced, valves can be replaced, wires and gauges can be replaced.
The good:
The suspensions s solid, the steering is solid, though an alignment is Probably in order.
The engine runs beautifully.
Ujoints are good.
Clutch appears to function just fine.
Charging system is working.
The only problems are with the rear brakes and the air system, and I'm not sure that the brakes aren't purely locked up because of the air system being faulty. I may have to bite the bitter bullet and tow it home, it's only 35-40 miles. But I really wanted to drive it! Have no fear, I will put this beauty on the road.
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09-21-2016, 12:16 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BKm3O_xgS3k/
Well that didn't work. I am not having succes uploading or posting pictures guys
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09-21-2016, 12:20 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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09-21-2016, 01:13 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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wow that bus looks to be in pretty good shape!!!!
thats gonna be a fun ride when you get it up and running!!
-Christopher
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09-23-2016, 07:33 PM
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#13
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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Well I identified the brake cans, I think the entire drive train and brakes were updated when they did the engine. The transmission is an eaton!
After identifying the brakes I learned how to manually crank them released and did so. So now I have it rolling fine! I have not figured out what's wrong with the airshift mechanism yet but I will!
I have arranged a tow for the morning at 250 an hour flat rate. Uggh. Monies suck.
But it's the safest way to get it home where I can tear into it and begin the restoration
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09-24-2016, 10:18 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mount Victory, OH
Posts: 85
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I love those classic buses!
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09-24-2016, 02:09 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Sweeeeeeet!!! Love the "SilverSides" look!
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09-25-2016, 12:07 AM
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#16
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
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Well I got it home!! Safe and sound. I've removed the airshift mechanism and a pto port cover so I can have an uninhibited view of the transmission I've also pulled the driveshaft. While I can put all three shifting forks in the neutral position and shift them in a manner that appears normal to me, it never seems to enter neutral. It is dark now and I am tired so I will have to play more tomorrow. I suspect there is an issue with the transmission itself but I don't think it's anything major or irreparable. In fact I this not its something very simple . I have a manual for the specific model of transmission on the way from eBay, 20 buckaroos.
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