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Old 04-17-2016, 05:07 PM   #11
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I had a bus that wouldn't stay in third by itself. It was fine while accelerating but as soon as you slacked off the gas it would drop right into neutral.

Honestly I'd rather have a stick, but in this forward control bus that would be difficult.

was a stick in an RE bus just plain a loose mess when it came to shifting?
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:26 PM   #12
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Never had an RE bus. That's a whole nother kettle of fish.
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Old 04-17-2016, 10:35 PM   #13
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was a stick in an RE bus just plain a loose mess when it came to shifting?
Mine shifts nice. Not as tight as a conventional shifter but not bad.
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Is that shift set up kind of like in a VW Beetle?
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:20 AM   #15
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I would say if you aren't a trucker or used to driving big sh!t go with auto. I put a bid in on a front engined 7 speed bus, didn't win, and was glad after sitting in traffic in my bus and driving it in urban hilly areas like san francisco, where a manual would be a nightmare. The 6 speed allison on my bus isn't worn out and shifts great, and has a lockup torque converter, so the MPGs dont take much of a hit. You've got enough things to worry about when driving a bus, you don't need more, IMO.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:31 AM   #16
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Crown, Gillig, Pacific, and IHC RE buses had single shaft shift linkages. As a consequence the shift throws were relatively short and very crisp. It also made it very easy to upgrade from a 5-speed to a Road Ranger multi-range transmission since they used the same sort of single shaft shift linkage.

The other OEM vendor supplied chassis used by all of the eastern built bus OEM's used two rods with bell cranks. To adjust and account for different wheelbase lengths the rods were connected with pins and clevises. Over time as the bell cranks got sloppy with use and as the pins wore the holes in the clevises out the shift throws became longer and longer and sloppier and sloppier. The gear shifts would have more wiggle in gear than the single shaft gear shifts had in neutral. I have driven a few that in order to get to reverse which was up and to the right your head would go below the dash board as you reached over to catch the gear.

When it comes to choosing between automatic and stick shift the choice has pretty much already been made for you. Starting in the '80's the standard spe'c became the automatic and you had to pay extra to get a stick shift. I have only seen two school buses with stick shifts that have been made since 1990.

That isn't to say there are not any school buses out there with stick shifts. What I am saying is they are very few and far between.

As a young man I thought it was cool to have to manually shift the gears and only whimps drove automatics. As I have gotten older and gimpy with aches and pains I have to say it is really nice to be able to use a touch pad to choose my gears and not have to worry about pushing in the clutch pedal and rowing my way through traffic.
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So it pretty much sounds like all the same pros and cons of the MT/AT argument in cars.
IDK, i like my cars with a manual. But driving a school bus with an auto is way better, imo. The turbo stays spooled between gears. The mt643 in mine is a real joy.
I'm missing half my left quadricep, and having driven a school bus through HORRIBLE Atlanta traffic, I couldn't imagine having to constantly work the long heavy clutch of a manual in a bus. Would suck royally, imo.
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IDK, i like my cars with a manual. But driving a school bus with an auto is way better, imo. The turbo stays spooled between gears. The mt643 in mine is a real joy.
I'm missing half my left quadricep, and having driven a school bus through HORRIBLE Atlanta traffic, I couldn't imagine having to constantly work the long heavy clutch of a manual in a bus. Would suck royally, imo.
I have been stuck in the same Atlants traffic, sweating my balls off, and the last thing I wanted to do was shift gears in a bus, haha. We ended up pulling off and getting BBQ and playing with a remote control car until the traffic went away
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I have been stuck in the same Atlants traffic, sweating my balls off, and the last thing I wanted to do was shift gears in a bus, haha. We ended up pulling off and getting BBQ and playing with a remote control car until the traffic went away

I have that to look forward to when I drive my bus from st pete to ohio in a couple weeks.. unfortunately I must make that drive without Air conditioning since the Air conditioning for my bus is in pieces inside a bunch of cartons .. lol I may run through atlanta at night or very early in the morning before it gets hot..

I'll get a hotel in the burbs and take off really early.. though I think the south side of atlanta burbs are not the Nicest ones..

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I have that to look forward to when I drive my bus from st pete to ohio in a couple weeks.. unfortunately I must make that drive without Air conditioning since the Air conditioning for my bus is in pieces inside a bunch of cartons .. lol I may run through atlanta at night or very early in the morning before it gets hot..

I'll get a hotel in the burbs and take off really early.. though I think the south side of atlanta burbs are not the Nicest ones..

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I stayed at the bus friendly roach motel in McDonnough Ga a bit south of Atl, it was $34 and wasn't too scary. Excellent exit thats easy to get on and off of.
Late at night/early morning is definitely the way to go.
I never appreciated FL roads till I got home with my bus from Ky.
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