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Old 09-22-2016, 11:16 AM   #11
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It doesn't look to tough I have seen a few done now. If i can figure out which buses have what roof height or if there all the same now I would know if I need to do a roof at all. I'm not that tall so its not a issue for myself. I can see where it would make for a lot more storage shelf's though. Ive seen it done with welding and riveted back together like factory. IT must just kill the MPG. Slanting it back from the front as I have seen some do seems like the way to go. Ramp it upon a angle a few feet back. I'm sure what ever I pick my neighbors will equally hate the idea when I get started.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:57 AM   #12
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it seems to me the toughest part of most raises i see is in the transition piece if the bus is being raised behind the driver area, theres been a couple where they raised the whole roof from front to back.. im not sure how hard the metal work is at the front on one like that..

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Old 09-22-2016, 01:57 PM   #13
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what does the WARD in the Amtran mean? I thought Amtran was the chassis manufacture. So at 78 seating you must have 13 window? Is the Amtran roof the extra 6" taller than I have read about. Picking out a bus to bid on in a auction site unseen with out knowing all the specs is difficult.
Ward was bought out by International. They called the Amtran Genesis the "Ward Senator" on the east coast for the first couple years. In 93 they labeled them all as Genesis. Amtran have hi roof and regular models. Mine is about 6'2 and is the low model. I think mine is a 14 window. Passenger capacity and windows only loosely correlate. Mine had a couple small seats, so it could have been outfitted as an 80+ passenger if ordered as such, I'd imagine.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:59 PM   #14
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you know whats wierd is I see short-window IC busses here.. i never saw those before... they look like mid 2000s model busses.. every other city i travel the IC busses are the taller variant.. I never even knew IC made a short window bus... I thought bluebird was the only one still offering that as an option on newer busses.

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Old 09-22-2016, 03:49 PM   #15
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There is a guy that bought most of the Nashville metro School buses. Look on craigslist NAshville. 2000's for anywhere from $3500 - $4800...
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:21 PM   #16
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Hi Guys

Please can I get some more information on how you did your roof raise?
Do you have any photos please?

Thank you
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:26 PM   #17
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I don't know the you tube link but there is a great video on there showing a bus get raised and the guy is master at metal rust removal. Puts a car rear window up in the front transition of the roof. Its brilliant to watch and the build is still going on.
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:59 PM   #18
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Hi Geo Jeff

Thank you!
I am looking on youtube now.
The biggest problem I have is I am doing this 100% on my own at the moment. So I am trying to work out if it is even possible...

Thank you!
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:04 PM   #19
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it is I have never done it but i do fabricate. were getting ready to build to buses one with a raised roof. Your just welding brackets on with all thread and nuts. then you cut between brackets and its held with the all thread. your run the nut up on it and the roof raises. set the height and start welding in your square steel stock then grind the brackets off holding the all thread brackets. once you see it you'll be surprised how easy it is.

I just found it its the best build i have seen. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS9...4nubgsjXBhHCYA
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