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04-07-2015, 09:18 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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pretty slick, those are at least 3/8-16 grade 5 bolts right? I would hate for it to flip off
great idea
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04-07-2015, 11:44 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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yep, big bolts, my only concern is dropping it off the side as I roll on/off the platform - 1st time was a bit of a struggle, and I am sure pushing it off backwards is even more
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04-07-2015, 11:47 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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oops, forgot about my security system installed in the rain yesterday......
45 seconds to install.............
drill hole, place padlock
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04-07-2015, 01:52 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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How about taking one of the "tube" wheel chock like this
and install carriage bolts like this upside down (or other ideas this is just a quick thought)
place into holes in front of ramp, push forward, drop in a pin so it can't move back, push front tire into it
raise up, remove pin and pull inside
to unload, put the tire holder on back wards at rear of ramp, install and push backwards, install a pin and then push bike on??
maybe this will give you ideas
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04-07-2015, 06:48 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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maybe I am too dumb, but I am not sure how that would solve my issue?
the bike rides the lift fine, difficulty comes when moving the bike off the ramp?
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04-08-2015, 03:59 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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I thought issue was worried about it falling off the ramp in motion, reading comprehension was not a strong point I guess, sorry about that
So issue is not enough room for you and the bike pushing it on and off, causing you and bike to lean together?
I pictured riding bike onto ramp and stabilizing with legs, since its fairly level, getting off bike with wheel chocked load or unload, get back on and back off with legs
This would keep you from leaning over the side rails possibly dumping bike
It's clear in my mind...I am just mudding up the thought
What is wt limit on lift?
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04-08-2015, 07:11 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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communication is not my strong point either Bansil
the issue is I have to PULL the bike onto the bus, which is VERY awkward. You can see me pulling in the video at 1:46, and you have to trust me that this NOT the way you want to move a bike. Not sure there is a solution, I might simply have to become a pro at pulling bikes from the front?
Weight limit is 800 pounds
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04-08-2015, 03:48 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 258
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Winch inside the storage bay, pulley at the door, cable and clip down to the bike? Harbor Freight has small winches for pennies - they're crappy but would work fine for this and they're all 12V.
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04-08-2015, 08:37 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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I am really curious about the guy with the Ducati that was a member...did he have a technique or did he wing-it like me?
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04-08-2015, 09:17 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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lucky you, I have to make the door for my handicap lift taller so my bike will fit in
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04-08-2015, 09:51 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
lucky you, I have to make the door for my handicap lift taller so my bike will fit in
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I feel you, I am leaving 2 taller bikes behind
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04-10-2015, 09:43 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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so I got some bondo in the roof-holes, and some paint on the rusty spots, AND, it is no longer yellow.
Now, time for some framing - and I am no carpenter
Before
After
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04-11-2015, 04:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Wow, big transformation!
How many cans of silver did that take? 12?
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04-11-2015, 06:28 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bansil
Wow, big transformation!
How many cans of silver did that take? 12?
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0.9 gallon of Rustoleum Aluminum
0.2 gallon Rustoleum Gloss Black
-3 days of prep - scraping stickers, removing adhesive, Bondo sanding, washing, masking/taping
-45 minutes of painting (adjusted for scaffold and ladder movement)
-1 hour to clean up the mess
$25 Bondo Body filler & Bus-Roof StopLeak
$12 masking tape
$8 masking paper
$60 in paint
$27 paint gun
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$132 TOTAL
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04-11-2015, 10:16 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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turned out great
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04-11-2015, 03:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I love it.
Thanks for sharing the cost break down.
Nat
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05-07-2015, 07:46 AM
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#37
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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I am a big guy – 6’5″, standing up and laying down, awake and asleep -so I need a big bed. I sleep on a King-size now, but can do fine with a Queen. I do not want squeeze down into a Twin/Double, so I need to engineer a Murphy bed, or at least a modified Murphy bed. Most M-Beds have a frame the bed folds up into, but I want something simple, easy, that I can fold up as close to the ceiling as possible, then fasten to the ceiling, to avoid crawling across the bed to get to the bike.
The picture above shows approximate height, angle, and elevated position when hooked to the ceiling. I will be building the frame, hinge system, legs/base/mounts. I can make a simple frame, that is functional, but I also want it to last more than a week, as I have a few problems……
PROBLEMS:
Needs to support a 250+ lb. man, and mattress
Needs to be light enough to be lifted from the side or weird angles
When elevated, the bed will have ALL the weight 2 legs.
So here is my plan. Wood frame, thick, metal door hinges.
I assume my plan will change as I build this contraption.
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05-07-2015, 08:02 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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05-07-2015, 01:36 PM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Ditch the angle iron for some tubing. Make it telescopic.
That doesn't account for the mattress. Unless your using a air mattress.
Or do a 2 foot roof raise. Then you have room for everything.
Nat
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05-07-2015, 02:20 PM
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#40
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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I may abandon the Murphy all together, as it seems too clunky, and there is really not enough room to lift it up, I might just crawl across the bed, raised for extra storage underneath?
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