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Old 10-29-2019, 07:12 PM   #1
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Lady Liberty: School Activity Bus Conversion



Lady Liberty was a school activity bus. She's got adult sized headroom, serious air conditioning, overhead storage, storage below deck, a bona fide commercial duty diesel engine in the back rated at 300 hp, six forward speeds geared for the highway, air ride suspension all around. I'm no expert in these matters, but I've been calling her a coach since I first slapped some stickers on her announcing that to the world just before I rolled off the seller's property. If I am seriously in error in this characterization I will welcome constructive criticism. Not saying that it will change my mind, but I'm always willing to hear from good people who have more experience or cognitive ability than I do.


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Old 10-30-2019, 12:47 AM   #2
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So first, out came the seats:





Still toying with the idea of saving a row of seats for passengers to sit up front just behind the driver. It takes up a lot of space that might be better used for something else.




And possibly creating a dinette.





Then I got to ripping out the floor to make way for insulation.





I am thinking about putting down a layer of Water & Ice membrane before I put down two inches foam insulation board and a new layer of plywood on top of that. I am worried about condensation making its way under the insulation and rusting the floor. Water & Ice is a trade name for a peel and stick roofing underlayment made of modified asphalt with a plastic backing. Applying a little heat would get it to conform to any irregularities in the surface and make it close to 100% adhered and get it to seal up the many nail, screw and bolt holes in the metal floor. I think it would also contribute some sound deadening effect.
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Old 10-30-2019, 03:49 AM   #3
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Wow! That is a clean demo'd bus. I bet you have to search hard to find any rust at all!
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:05 AM   #4
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Looking awesome!

You sure scored a nice one.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:09 AM   #5
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Thanks for the tip on water and ice. I'm going to have to look that up now.

I'm with you the seats might look nice on a dinette
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:49 AM   #6
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Thanks for the tip on water and ice. I'm going to have to look that up now.

I'm with you the seats might look nice on a dinette
I learn so much from people on this forum, I am glad if I can contribute any useful information.

Water and IceŽ membrane is available at both Lowes and Home Depot, and almost every other building supply business in North America. When I saw it in Lowes the other day, a roll that covers 108 ft.˛ was running about $79. If you are applying it in summer and you can get temperatures inside your bus of around 90°F or more it it will lay down nicely and the asphalt component will become gooey, allowing you to conform easily to the surface of your floor. If you're doing in colder weather I would recommend heating up both the bus and the material before application. It also wouldn't hurt to have something like a linoleum roller to go over it for maximum adhesion.

By the way, when I was a young carpenter many, many years ago, and this product first came out, it often went by its tradename, bituethene, which we quickly turned into bitch-a-thane, because once you peel off the protective backing it is like a terrible kind of flypaper. If you accidentally stick a piece of it to itself you will never get it apart, and likewise, if you stick it to something you didn't intend to stick it to or you install it with air pockets and wrinkles, you'll probably wish you'd never seen the stuff. But on the other hand, once you have it down you can be pretty sure it's doing its job and it is not going to come up. If you have never worked with the stuff before, I would recommend looking on YouTube for some videos about how to install it, which amount basically some tips and tricks for peeling off the backing material at the same time that you're rolling it down.

Water And Ice membrane at Lowes
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