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Old 03-31-2019, 02:51 PM   #1
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Any trouble with Winter diesel starting?

Im wanting to get a mini bus 7.3l or 6.6l also been looking at shorter bus with a 03 dt466. I have been researching them and came to the conclusion that these are probably the best diesels you can get (not including cummins). I have been pretty sold on getting one and have just been searching for the right one or just one for sale. But hit a wall the other day when thinking of trying to start one of these engines in the winter up in the mountains with no plug in.

Does anybody have some experience with starting these engines with no plug in in really cold weather, I would be spending most winters in the cold skiing and not being able to easily start my van/bus seems like a huge con of a diesel.
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Old 03-31-2019, 03:17 PM   #2
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I can tell you that a propane grill under the oil pan for two hours works....... Not recommend......

In my new bus I have a Webasto diesel fired heater that will preheat the engine when a plug in is not available.
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Old 03-31-2019, 03:29 PM   #3
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Haha Yea that would definitely be a sketchy worst case scenario, Yea I have been looking at the Wabasto heaters a little. Do you mind telling me which one you got? The ones that I found after a short search were $700-$3000 depending on kits and different models, cant imagine how a diesel heater for just a bus/van could cost that much!
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:07 PM   #4
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I have the Webasto Schoolastic. It is 45k btu.

I paid $500
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:39 PM   #5
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Awesome thank you, with that did you just duct some vents that go inside the bus and then one into the engine bay?
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:42 PM   #6
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Im wanting to get a mini bus 7.3l or 6.6l also been looking at shorter bus with a 03 dt466. I have been researching them and came to the conclusion that these are probably the best diesels you can get (not including cummins). I have been pretty sold on getting one and have just been searching for the right one or just one for sale. But hit a wall the other day when thinking of trying to start one of these engines in the winter up in the mountains with no plug in.

Does anybody have some experience with starting these engines with no plug in in really cold weather, I would be spending most winters in the cold skiing and not being able to easily start my van/bus seems like a huge con of a diesel.
a tiger torch with the flame fed through a stove pipe with an elbow to direct the heat under the oil pan works if the smoke coming off the motor doesn't scare you too much - -40 and won't crank over, to running, 20 +/- minutes - been there done that in the NWT
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:54 PM   #7
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Thanks Im going to want to have something permanent and semi easy to heat up. I plan on spending most winter in the cold. Im liking the wabasto heater if im able to heat the inside and the engine bay from one heater.
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:12 PM   #8
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The wabasto heater heats the engine coolant, and has a seperate 12 volt electric pump to circulate the coolant. At least the one I have is set up this way.
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:19 PM   #9
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The wabasto heater heats the engine coolant, and has a seperate 12 volt electric pump to circulate the coolant. At least the one I have is set up this way.
Is the one you have the Thermo Top C? Your not able to get any in cabin heat right?
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:30 PM   #10
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I have not tried it, but would expect it to also give cabin heat. One picture is the tag on the wabasto heater and the other is the pump.
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