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Old 03-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
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Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

I have a 2003 Bluebird TC2000. I removed the stop arm cut and tapped wires and when I went to move Bus it was completely dead. It has an interlock system that is on the back emergency door. It was an electric stop arm. Can anyone help me!! Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:23 AM   #2
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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

I can't answer specifically, but if that is the ONLY thing you did there is probably some sort of "safety" interlock you cut.
A study of the stop arm may give a clue.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:31 AM   #3
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My guess is the arm works as does the trans neutral safety switch. Some wire carries power to the start solenoid or fuel valve. Check the wiring at the arm and restore wiring. The colors of the wires should give you direction. Frank
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:13 AM   #4
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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

Like it was posted earlier.. you either have to have a schematic.. or check each wire.. In the thomas that i now have, as i disconnected things like the back door wiring, and stop arm, buzzers, wiring.. i checked each wire, because some of them are hot, and some wires have to go to the ground in order for the bus to start. So if I were doing it, i would unhook and check for starting... My bus also has a schematic for the control panel, so if yours has one you might check it as you go along. hope this helps...
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:50 PM   #5
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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

Thanks Guys! I put everything back, stop arm and connected all wires. Still dead as a doornail. Battery new and charged. I think it is the innerlock system. I took it apart and found a loose wire, reconected it and still nothing. Does anyone know how to deactivate it or any other ideas? Is there any other saftey switches that may be causing the problem. May it was just a huge coinicdence that it happened after I took of the stop arm. Thanks for your imput.

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Old 03-21-2012, 08:53 PM   #6
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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

the stop arm is normally connected to one or two relays in the control panel. In my thomas bus, there are two relays. I would imagine that you either have a wire that is open, or one that needs grounded. other than that, i dont know. You might also check the fuses and circuit breakers.
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You could go to the Bluebird site and look up your wiring schematic.

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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

Wiring schematic should be on the control panel door... or close...
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:13 AM   #9
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Re: Bus is Dead after Removal of Stop Arm

Just wanted to say thanks and let everyone know how assumptions can be a real killer. I finally found the problem which was a corroded negative battery cable, and an easy fix. I assumed it was the stop arm but those darn assumtions can send us a quite interesting trips. Learned alot about new bus on this trip. Thanks again and always check the simple things first!

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