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06-27-2015, 12:11 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toledo OH
Posts: 781
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP-EF
Engine: Cat C7 + Allison 3000PTS
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Diesel fuel additives...do you use them?
Reading a bit about wear and tear caused by the new low sulfur diesel, combined with algae, got me wondering how many of you out there use additives to condition your fuel. If you use it, what kind?
I'd appreciate your thoughts...
-Dan
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06-27-2015, 12:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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06-27-2015, 02:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I also use that stuff.
Nat
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06-27-2015, 06:05 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Since my bus is just sitting as I work on it and before I can get it registered and inspected, I dumped a bottle of Star Brite Star Tron fuel treatment in the tank.
There is some discussion bouncing around the interwebz about adding 2 stroke oil to diesel, particularly for older engines to increase the lubricity of ULSD.
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06-27-2015, 07:32 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,359
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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wally 2stroke oil...1:128
an ounce per gallon.
seems to run quieter, and has a bit more power/speed....
liking the change so far
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06-27-2015, 08:23 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Marvel Mystery Oil ::Marvel Mystery Oil::
Lucas fuel additive Fuel Treatment
Power Service http://powerservice.com/
two stroke motor oil
non-detergent 30 weight motor oil
The oils depend upon what I'm doing. Power service in winter and for long term storage. Climbing mountains, two stroke, storage and short trips, non-detergent 30 weight. The engines I own seem to perform best that way. No idea as to why for the two stroke and 30 weight but those are my results for what it's worth.
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06-27-2015, 09:11 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 546
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Stanadyne performance or WM 2 stroke.
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06-27-2015, 11:45 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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06-27-2015, 04:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
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Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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I add Walmart TC-W3 outboard oil (1 oz per gallon) every fill up to add back some lubricity that was lost when the new low sulfur diesel came out. I also add some of the Power Service Kleen Diesel once in a while to clean the fuel system and injectors. Once a year I'll pour in a bottle of PS Clear Diesel to remove any water and algae that might have crept in there.
Keeping the tank full helps stop condensation from forming, especially in the cold months.
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06-27-2015, 07:53 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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-10 and below I use Power Service and ALWAYS keep a full tank year round.
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06-28-2015, 11:04 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 343
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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For long term storage I use PRI-D to keep the fuel fresh and 2-stroke oil for
lubricity. The PRI-G will actually bring old fuel back to refinery fresh. For
gasoline storage I use PRI-G annually, which will keep the fuel usable for
up to ten years.
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06-28-2015, 12:18 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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I'm on the fence right now about additives, I have always been a fan of the lucas brand had good luck with it in my rental business. With my new injectors I'm not sure what to use in the fuel, if anything, for the oil ill use lucas oil treatment.
gbstewart
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06-29-2015, 11:34 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,709
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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In the winter, power service white bottle strictly for the anti-gel/anti-cloud protection.
There is a lot of info out there saying that ulsd is responsible for the death of old injection pumps and injectors due to the lack of lubricity. Now I'm not say it isn't, but every person in the petroleum business that I've talked to said they've addressed the lubricity issue long before the fuel hit the market. So I'm not completely sold that there is a problem with the fuel.
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