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01-29-2018, 08:04 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Lets Talk GREASE and PM
Lets have a discussion about grease. And PM intervals.
How often are you lubing the chassis/driveline?
I'm of the mindset that everything should be greased at every oil change. Grease is a lot cheaper and easier than component replacement.
I saw a few threads on the School Bus Fleet forum and thought I'd start a similar topic here since I don't see it come up a whole lot.
grease types and intervals - School Bus Fleet Magazine Forums
So how often are you doing this stuff, and what products are you using?
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01-29-2018, 08:54 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 175
Year: 1999
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International FE
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 84 passengers
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I usually hit all of my zerks once a year. But I'm probably only putting less than 5,000 miles a year on my skoolie. I use Mobil CM grease. The first time I ever lubed my skoolie after purchasing it I went through quite a bit of grease. The school district must not have been very good about performing that maintenance. I probably put ~70 pumps of grease into the driveshaft slip joint.
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01-29-2018, 11:23 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rensch26
I usually hit all of my zerks once a year. But I'm probably only putting less than 5,000 miles a year on my skoolie. I use Mobil CM grease. The first time I ever lubed my skoolie after purchasing it I went through quite a bit of grease. The school district must not have been very good about performing that maintenance. I probably put ~70 pumps of grease into the driveshaft slip joint.
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They're usually pretty dry!
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01-31-2018, 03:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,708
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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I hit em all once a year as well. Usually in the spring time when I'm getting it ready for the summer. Less then 500 miles per year here.
Biggest thing with greasing joints is to make sure the zerk is cleaned off before hitting them. You'll ruin a joint just as quickly with dirt in the grease as you would without greasing them at all. Part of the reason behind the "lifetime" U joints out now.
I use shell Gadus grease. Any grease should be good as long as its from a reputable manufacturer.
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01-31-2018, 04:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Booyah45828
I hit em all once a year as well. Usually in the spring time when I'm getting it ready for the summer. Less then 500 miles per year here.
Biggest thing with greasing joints is to make sure the zerk is cleaned off before hitting them. You'll ruin a joint just as quickly with dirt in the grease as you would without greasing them at all. Part of the reason behind the "lifetime" U joints out now.
I use shell Gadus grease. Any grease should be good as long as its from a reputable manufacturer.
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Yeah! Cleaning off the fitting is crucial!
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01-31-2018, 04:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 819
Year: 1993
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: DT360
Rated Cap: 66
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Another part of the "lifetime" joints is strength. No lube port means no hole through the body where stress cracks can start to form.
As far as lubing everything... On our work trucks, I grease everything ever oil change which is 7500-10000 miles. Typically, the grease is nasty and contaminated with water by this point.
For the bus, I plan on greasing everything before each outing (using as an RV mainly). I'd say every 3k or so would be ideal unless on a long single trip.. then 5k or so.
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01-31-2018, 07:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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I do this for a living. For diesel trucks whether commercial or personal = 12,000 mile complete LOF (lube/oil/filters) and then a 6,000 mile grease job. Grease once a year regardless of miles.
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02-01-2018, 08:38 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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Give those u-joints a good look too. I saw a sign of the bearing cup rotating before it failed. Opened it up and it was a mess. Better in my driveway than on the road.
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f39/u-joint-q-13294.html
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02-01-2018, 10:36 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: West Chester, OH
Posts: 78
Year: 1990
Coachwork: International
Chassis: 3800 Carpenter
Engine: DT360 / AT545
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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Good information here. Thanks. Any recommendations on a grease gun?
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02-01-2018, 11:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oredigger
Good information here. Thanks. Any recommendations on a grease gun?
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Harbor Freight has an air-driven grease gun that has good reviews.
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02-01-2018, 11:21 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,708
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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The last gun I bought was this one from lincoln off of amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-1162-.../dp/B0019COQ6C
Lasted close to 8 years in the shop before the pump quit working. Electric ones from my experience are more expensive up front and the batteries will usually be junk after a few years.
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02-01-2018, 11:54 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Harbor Freight has an air-driven grease gun that has good reviews.
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Its what I use.
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02-01-2018, 11:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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The battery in my itty bitty skill saw didn't even last to months. Those batteries are designed to make you buy more batteries.
For you electrical types out there, you must be as frustrated with batteries going out on these power tools too. Why hasn't someone designed a corded receptacle that can power the battery powered tools without a battery. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, but a small transformer and a cord would allow people to use these previously battery powered tools that are for sale cheap everywhere? Every other type of adapter possible is out there available. Why is no one filling that nisch?
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02-01-2018, 04:14 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rensch26
I probably put ~70 pumps of grease into the driveshaft slip joint.
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Don't fill-up the driveshaft !!!! sorry, couldn't resist.
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02-01-2018, 06:38 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Frisco Texas area
Posts: 10
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Chevrolet heavy truck
Engine: 8.2l GM "Detroit" turbodiesel
Rated Cap: 66 pass, 26,500 lb GVWR
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Upon my first servicing, I took off my front hub covers to repack the bearings, I decided to drill holes in the centers and insert zerts. Glad I did. Now I never wonder whether there is grease in them. I just inject them with my pneumatic grease gun from Harbor Freight.
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02-01-2018, 08:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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May be good for disc brakes but could be a problem with drum brakes if the rear seal blows out and the brake shoes get greased. Jack
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02-02-2018, 10:38 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Yeah...but if you grease your brake shoes they will last longer.
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02-02-2018, 10:39 AM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I'm alarmed that my muffler doesn't have a fitting for those pesky bearings!
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02-20-2021, 08:38 PM
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#19
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 570
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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So, I assume (based on one person in this thread) any grease is OK? Gonna be taking on this task pretty soon, as soon as I figure out exactly what the hell im supposed to be greasing lol. Does grease color matter? Synthetic or not? High temp or conventional, etc.? Nobody here really mentioned anything in detail. Forgive me for reviving this old post
Would this work fine..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CQ4DIM...8GKJQZXHWACXQH
Would appreciate any tips
Thanks
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02-20-2021, 09:03 PM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Bay area
Posts: 324
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Collins
Chassis: Bantam
Engine: International T444
Rated Cap: 16?
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Every oil change or once a year with whatever marine grease thats on sale. When I am feeling spendy and doing wheel bearings its lucas red&tacky saturated fat and sassy like my girlfriends.
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