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Old 10-13-2019, 10:23 AM   #1
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looking at a 1995 Genesis DT466 FE

Can't find a whole lot here about a Genesis bus. If I'm correct this is too early to be a 466E isn't it? I'm also wondering how to know what the transmission is. I'm driving out tomorrow to see it. I'm willing to crawl underneath to look but I'm not sure I know what to look for.


I'm mostly lost when it comes to engines. But I'm not too old yet to learn. Any advice on how to spot a problem as I'm looking this bus over tomorrow?


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Old 10-13-2019, 10:30 AM   #2
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The 466e came out in '95 or '96 you are right on the edge.

If you have an mt-643 or MD-3060 transmission and a mechanical DT you are in great shape. The mechanical DT's can be turned up a bit without much trouble.

Just remember that horsepower and longevity are at opposite sides of the equation.

More horsepower = shorter lifespan.

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Old 10-13-2019, 10:48 AM   #3
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Can't find a whole lot here about a Genesis bus. If I'm correct this is too early to be a 466E isn't it? I'm also wondering how to know what the transmission is. I'm driving out tomorrow to see it. I'm willing to crawl underneath to look but I'm not sure I know what to look for.


I'm mostly lost when it comes to engines. But I'm not too old yet to learn. Any advice on how to spot a problem as I'm looking this bus over tomorrow?


Thanks. I'll take my answer off the air.
It would be mechanical if its a 95.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:58 AM   #4
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How can I figure out what transmission it has?
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There should be a data plate on the transmission. It may be covered with road crud. Take a can of brake cleaner and a wrap when you crawl under to look.

If you can't find the plate/tag take some pictures of the transmission and post them here. We will figure it out.
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How can I figure out what transmission it has?
If you have a smartphone just compare pictures to what you have. Its most likely a 545 or 643.
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Old 10-13-2019, 12:30 PM   #7
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IMHO the International Genesis is one of the finest buses made, quality beyond the others.
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The 466e came out in '95 or '96 you are right on the edge.

If you have an mt-643 or MD-3060 transmission and a mechanical DT you are in great shape. The mechanical DT's can be turned up a bit without much trouble.

Just remember that horsepower and longevity are at opposite sides of the equation.

More horsepower = shorter lifespan.

Good luck



Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing this bus tomorrow. Kind of hard not to bring all my money with me lol.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:41 PM   #9
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There should be a data plate on the transmission. It may be covered with road crud. Take a can of brake cleaner and a wrap when you crawl under to look.

If you can't find the plate/tag take some pictures of the transmission and post them here. We will figure it out.



Thanks. I was kind of hoping to find some label tomorrow.


Next question I guess would be about the gear ratio. Just because I want to learn these things.
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Next question I guess would be about the gear ratio. Just because I want to learn these things.[/QUOTE]

That should be on the diff or axle housing usually on the back side. Look for a tag/tags, wipe them off, take pictures (easier than trying to read down there in the shade)
Desirable gear ratio depends on transmission, engine, gross weight and service application. Once these factors are determined, folks with similar setups can give input.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:27 PM   #12
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IMHO the International Genesis is one of the finest buses made, quality beyond the others.
i see your comments all the time on here, didn't realize you had a genesis.

Im in Ga too, and have progressive Insurance. My agent didn't think there would be a problem insuring it.

I told her she should hear the stories I read on here (yours specifically!)
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:37 PM   #13
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i see your comments all the time on here, didn't realize you had a genesis.

Im in Ga too, and have progressive Insurance. My agent didn't think there would be a problem insuring it.

I told her she should hear the stories I read on here (yours specifically!)
Wait till it's time to renew with Progressive. What kind of bus do you have? Go to the UseCP and fill out your profile with your bus info and location. It helps answer questions. You would know I have a Genesis by the profile.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:08 PM   #14
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Wait till it's time to renew with Progressive. What kind of bus do you have? Go to the UseCP and fill out your profile with your bus info and location. It helps answer questions. You would know I have a Genesis by the profile.



Yeah I just don't remember it being a Genesis and your profile.
I don't have a bus yet but I think I'm buying this one tomorrow. It's a 1995 Genesis with a DT466. He's not sure on the transmission.


It's missing a window in the back. It's been stripped down to the metal floor. He didn't take the ceiling off but the wall panels are off and still with the bus. There is a bunch of plywood for the floor that comes with it. Shower stall and a big 30 gallon water heater also.


It's three grand and it's about a three-hour drive. Seems like way too many good things to pass up.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:33 PM   #15
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So your Progressive is on a car? Progressive is no longer insuring converted buses.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:06 PM   #16
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So your Progressive is on a car? Progressive is no longer insuring converted buses.
That's what I told her LOL


I'm actually going to forward her the text of the letter you got from them.


And yeah, I've got progressive on my cars. Six months renewal on 10/27. If i get this bus it has no seats. If she insures it I might let her. And then go someplace else in six months.
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Old 10-13-2019, 07:02 PM   #17
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It would be mechanical if its a 95.

the NGD 466 mechanical and the 466E were made sisde by side 94-97... it could be either..
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I had a problem with Progressive also. They wanted me to go with a commercial policy....I switched to Geico
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:00 AM   #20
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I had a problem with Progressive also. They wanted me to go with a commercial policy....I switched to Geico




progressive only offers commercial policies for busses.. its a "commercial vehicle for personal use" policyt that you write for your bus until its converted.. then you switch to one of the RV vendors..



progressive wont write policies for busses on their consumer side at all... you always have to call the commercial side but state its a personal policy and not for a business..
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