Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-21-2019, 03:54 PM   #11
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 1,068
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
Injection pump costs vary by the engine. Some you can get for 500 bucks, others for 5000.

It's all about complexity and demand.

Injectors are the same way. Some cost 100 per while others are closer to 1000.

The fuel system on a diesel is what makes the cost higher then a gas counterpart.
Booyah45828 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2019, 05:21 PM   #12
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 252
My only concern about the decision to get a pusher is that my research is strewn with tails of engine life being shortened by overheating. I get the impression that a dog nose would give at least 50% more life with the same engine.
pengyou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:42 AM   #13
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 1,068
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by pengyou View Post
My only concern about the decision to get a pusher is that my research is strewn with tails of engine life being shortened by overheating. I get the impression that a dog nose would give at least 50% more life with the same engine.
And that is a valid concern. Cooling an RE bus is a tough job, you're fighting against the air when you do it which is why you hear so many having trouble.

Dog nose busses are easiest for work and maintenance, but you lose the first 6 feet of total space. Most would rather have and use that square footage then waste it.

FE busses use all available sq footage, but are somewhat of a pain to do engine work on. You also have to be cautious about overloading the front axle when converting.

I'm not sure on the 50% number. All busses seem to have issues, and I've never seen statistics from a large enough sample to sway one way or the other. I'd never give a blanket statement on one engine or style of bus. So much of it being a good buy or not depends solely on the life of each individual bus.
Booyah45828 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 10:35 AM   #14
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 4,374
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by pengyou View Post
My only concern about the decision to get a pusher is that my research is strewn with tails of engine life being shortened by overheating. I get the impression that a dog nose would give at least 50% more life with the same engine.
RE's are definitely tougher to cool.

In a properly maintained and driven bus it should not be a problem.

I have driven mine over mountain passes in 90-100F temperatures while packed full of my household belongings and not had a bit of trouble.
PNW_Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2019, 04:31 PM   #15
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 44
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Freighliner
Chassis: Fs-65
Engine: 5.9l cummins
Rated Cap: 36 passenger
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer View Post
I was just checking prices on used t444e's this afternoon - a decent used CORE sells for $1000 US - I have no idea what a complete rebuild of a core would cost because I stopped looking at $1000 for a core
I rebuilt the cummins in my truck for about 4000.bucks. i did all the work myself aside for machining.
Cjgoertzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2019, 04:35 PM   #16
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 44
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Freighliner
Chassis: Fs-65
Engine: 5.9l cummins
Rated Cap: 36 passenger
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booyah45828 View Post
Injection pump costs vary by the engine. Some you can get for 500 bucks, others for 5000.

It's all about complexity and demand.

Injectors are the same way. Some cost 100 per while others are closer to 1000.

The fuel system on a diesel is what makes the cost higher then a gas counterpart.
Agreed

Put six oversized injectors in my bus for 550 $. Same engine couple years newer in my truck they were 350 a piece.
Cjgoertzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2019, 11:41 PM   #17
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,119
Sticker shock is par for the course when you purchase a bus. $500-$1,000 per tire mounted and balanced. Batteries $150.00+ per battery and you will most likely need at least two. Oil changes that take more gallons than the quarts used in your personal car--10 gallons for an oil change is not cheap!


The upside is most school buses are overbuilt. Given even average care there is no reason to not expect your bus to go well over 250K miles without any costly repair outside of tires.


You will need to build up a reserve/emergency fund because when something does break it won't be cheap to repair. If you have to hire it done most shops will charge $120.00-$175.00 per hour even if all they are doing is reading through a shop manual to figure out how to fix your bus. Learning how to do the most common repairs yourself can save you thousands over the life of your bus.


Good Luck and Happy Trails to you!
cowlitzcoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2019, 09:10 PM   #18
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Stansbury Park, Utah
Posts: 122
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: GA39530
Engine: DT466E 215hp 620tq
Rated Cap: 40
DT466E Inframe

As a comparison, I am doing an inframe on my DT466e and the kit was 1300, Im doing the work, needed one exhaust valve, 20 bucks online, and it needed a turbo I scored for free through horse trading due to its common components this was possible, if it was VNT (Variable Nozzle Turbo) and with after treatment systems that would not have been possible.

I had my injectors modified and rebuilt all six for 1900, but I had stuff to trade for part of that so cash out of pocket was 880.

I added an additional set of guides for the lifters, 120
And Im resealing the oil cooler 65 for the gasket set.

So as you can see it can add up quick, my greatest advise to anyone getting in this is have patience, take a deep breath, and learn to fix it yourself. There is enough information on the net to solve almost all problems. Buy some tools and try it a bit at a time.

Good luck.
FamilyCircus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2019, 09:54 AM   #19
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 252
Yes, I have seen rebuilt 8.3's for $5k to $9K I am not sure yet what causes the price difference. I am leaning towards buses with this engine because of this price range. Maybe part of the reason is that it is a common engine? I have also seen injectors for as low as $90 each...with the mid range at around $160 each. It is still a lot of $$ but not nearly as much as some of the newer electronic engines that are $400 or more eacy. What I try to keep in mind, to help me keep perspective, is the high $$$ I would have to pay if the bus breaks down on an interstate and has to be towed 150 miles or more, the cost of (probably) more than normal labor at an interstate truck stop, the $x00 needed per night to stay in a motel, etc
pengyou is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.