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Old 08-02-2015, 11:49 AM   #11
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I'd just rather not buy the 6.0 headache.
There are TONS of em out there for CHEAP to those brave enough, though.
For me, its still way too much a gamble. Kits or not. I don't really want anything requiring a kit simply to hope to survive its intended use.
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:05 PM   #12
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I'd just rather not buy the 6.0 headache.
There are TONS of em out there for CHEAP to those brave enough, though.
For me, its still way too much a gamble. Kits or not. I don't really want anything requiring a kit simply to hope to survive its intended use.
Been a Ford man all my life. They haven't made something that I can't hot-rod, er, modify and preform to my expectations. Hardly have to do it. But I've done it on my '05 one ton because my needs have changed over the years of owning her. Had many Chevys. Mid-year changes drove me NUTS and the Turbo 400 had a nasty habit of letting the vacuum shifter wallowing out so it wouldn't get out of first gear without tearing apart the whole tranny just to put in a stainless steel sleeve to prevent it from wallowing out again. $1,500 for a 10 cent piece GM was too cheap to put in at the factory to begin with. Still have my M1031 with that now modified Turbo 400 tranny.....

So, every manufacturer has its problems. It just depends upon what you're willing to put up with that makes the difference.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:28 PM   #13
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Girardin is the name I think.
They most certainly are a Canadian cie. They build them 1h from where I live.

They have a whole st of used vehicules but I'm pretty sure they all will be out of price range (being still functionnal as buses, they can still provide revenu so...).

I sure will visit a few up close to figure out which is best. I'm also about 5'8" so thank for the input!!!
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:27 PM   #14
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I have far less problems with Chevy than I do with fords.

To me a Ford is like a Cat engine. A Ford will get the same job done as a Chevy, just at 10x the maintenance and cost of maintenance.

I would never buy a bus unless it had a mechanical Cummins or DT engine.

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Old 08-03-2015, 05:05 PM   #15
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Well, this project took a bad turn.

While lloking up the needed equipement for a conversion to be legal in my province, I found this little gem...:

Les sièges et les ceintures de sécurité doivent être neufs, destinés à ce type de véhicule et installés selon les recommandations du fabricant du véhicule.

It translates to:

All seats need to have seat belts. Seats and belts need to be NEW.

Nanny state...
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:06 PM   #16
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Sounds like it could get expensive up there!
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:04 PM   #17
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The full list is simply ridiculous:

-Full kitchen (cooker, fridge, counter, sink and table)
-Beds
-Full bathroom (toilet and shower with appropriate tanks)
-Eletrical power independant from the bus engine
-PROPANE SYSTEM and certification for it (they force us to use propane?? WTF?)
-Fresh and used water tanks
-Water heater (Apparently, if you use your only in the summer and don't mind cold showers, it's not ok...)
-Independant cabin heater
-At least 2 seated space with seatbelts
-Enough or more seated places qith belts than there are beds (max 9). And they need to be new.

I love my country, but we sure know how to put rules in place....damn.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:01 PM   #18
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I'm from Quebec as well and just started looking at all this. Still, from what I gathered, you need to do all that if you want to be plated as a RV. It's mostly useful if you're driving a full size bus.

For mini bus, you can treat them as trucks and have a "véhicule de promenade" plate. On paper, they'll just think you've got a heavy Ford E350, let's say.

So as long as you leave seats for less then 9 people (max for "véhicule de promenade"), you should be ok. After all, the safari condo and econoline campervan don't have all those things.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:47 PM   #19
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We should meet up and talk!

I was hoping I wasn't the only on in La Belle Province to attempt somthing like this!

I wasn't decided yet if I should go full or mini. The space and fun of the big buses are sure interesting!

PM me so we can pool our info!
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:13 PM   #20
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I'm in the same boat with you here in Quebec. Now I'm looking for a Step Van in good condition to start my project. I also saw those ridiculous list of "Must have" from SAAQ, but I called them 15 times and also called to every authorized garage here in Quebec City to found the next explications:
-Full kitchen (cooker, fridge, counter, sink and table) -> induction, 12v compact fridge, sink and table
-Beds -> yes, you need them, but not so big and could be foldable
-Full bathroom (toilet and shower with appropriate tanks) ->4 gallon plastic can DIY toilet, shower with grey water tank
-Eletrical power independant from the bus engine -> 2X12v batteries+solar+AC converter
-PROPANE SYSTEM and certification for it (they force us to use propane?? WTF?) -> forget it!!! You can say, that you have an allergy to propane! You got me right?
-Fresh and used water tanks ->not so big, if you will use cassette or DIY toilette
-Water heater (Apparently, if you use your only in the summer and don't mind cold showers, it's not ok...) -I will install diesel heat system connected to engine cooling system for heat exchange
-Independant cabin heater -> same diesel heater as above
-At least 2 seated space with seat belts - this is the most expensive part of the project, but you will easily find a good RV garage/dealer to buy the seats in Montreal.
-Enough or more seated places with belts than there are beds (max 9). And they need to be new. -> yes, not less seats than beds

All three garages, authorized by SAAQ to check converted bus/van, are easy to talk about brakes and suspension, but not about the different types of toilets in RV. So, don't be more saint than pope. It could be done. Even in Quebec City.

I'm open to all your questions.
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