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Old 08-05-2015, 11:52 PM   #21
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WOW! Thanks!

The main issues are the seats. It states "NEW" seats and belts. Does it really have to be new from the factory or can it be "new-to-this-bus" new... if you catch my drift! ;)
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:15 AM   #22
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As they told me about the seats:
1) they will ask you for a purchase proof - only new seats!!!
2) they will check if it comes/available from your car maker, if no, you're free to choose a seat maker
3) they will check is your car could have standard seats, if no, it is up to you and your garage guy to find a best place/fix type
4) they will check if your seats are good mounted - thru the metal cross members and so on
5) they will give you some time, if something wrong with your installation

I'm still thinking about to choose the bus or a step van because of the seats. There is no seats problem with the bus - you're free to use what it comes with. It is a little bit complicated to find something for the step van. MS Sprinter is also a very easy platform, since it has a lot of seats combinations.

Try to find a good garage where they making RV modifications - not the big one, but a middle/small one with good experienced peoples there - this is the key to you project in Quebec. You still could do many things by yourself, but you will need a good supplier for some things and experience.
Start by calling to some authorized by SAAQ garages to talk about after-modifications test. It will give more information.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:55 AM   #23
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:38 AM   #24
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Simply the worst province of Canada.

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Let's not get into this. Everywhere is different, and it comes with regulations. Does it piss me off? Yes. Is it the worst place in Canada...debatable and I don't think it's useful to have this debate here.

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As they told me about the seats:
1) they will ask you for a purchase proof - only new seats!!! (Proof of purchase could mean you bought used seats in a store. Do RV seats have dates on them?)
2) they will check if it comes/available from your car maker, if no, you're free to choose a seat maker
3) they will check is your car could have standard seats, if no, it is up to you and your garage guy to find a best place/fix type
4) they will check if your seats are good mounted - thru the metal cross members and so on
5) they will give you some time, if something wrong with your installation

I'm still thinking about to choose the bus or a step van because of the seats. There is no seats problem with the bus - you're free to use what it comes with. (What? You can't just but belts on bus seats... It specifically says so. What do you mean by the bold sentence? It is a little bit complicated to find something for the step van. MS Sprinter is also a very easy platform, since it has a lot of seats combinations.

Try to find a good garage where they making RV modifications - not the big one, but a middle/small one with good experienced peoples there - this is the key to you project in Quebec. You still could do many things by yourself, but you will need a good supplier for some things and experience.
Start by calling to some authorized by SAAQ garages to talk about after-modifications test. It will give more information.(I already called auth. SAAQ inspectors, and the guy had NO idea what to tell me. They mainly deal with mechanical inspections, not the legal equipement part of it...)
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:53 AM   #25
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- New seats ONLY! They gonna call to the store and check with them if it is new officially. And it is really easy to find that it is not new.
- A lot of buses coming with a good seats and belts. You're eligible to use whatever comes with you vehicle before transformation. Seats also. That is why I'm still thinking about the bus.
- Yes, this is a reality. They are authorized to test your converted camper, but they don't have a lot of experience. One guy asked me to bring an electrician to make 12v wires! I asked him to show me this place in the Code. Than he sad that it is only for 110v. It is life!
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:33 AM   #26
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What kind of bus comes with seat belts???

Coaches? Shuttle buses maybe?

Some shuttles buses have optional lapbelts form the passengers. I wonder if adding the optional belts to an eexssting seat would satisfy the criteria. That might just be the cheapest way...
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:46 AM   #27
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What kind of bus comes with seat belts???

Coaches? Shuttle buses maybe?

Some shuttles buses have optional lapbelts form the passengers. I wonder if adding the optional belts to an eexssting seat would satisfy the criteria. That might just be the cheapest way...
I don't know about Quebec, but in the US, it's school buses that come with seat belts.

I thought this might be a nice shorty for you, but it's close to Albany NY, and I'm not sure what would go on at the border. The phone number to contact the seller is under "Seller Information".

Good luck with your search!

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...46&acctid=6286
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:57 PM   #28
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I don't know about Quebec, but in the US, it's school buses that come with seat belts.
My 40' '03 Amtran came with about 8 belts in the first two rows; all the others were old-fashioned suicide seats. My plan was to can the belts for the dining area and possibly the couch
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Old 08-06-2015, 02:16 PM   #29
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I don't know about Quebec, but in the US, it's school buses that come with seat belts.

I thought this might be a nice shorty for you, but it's close to Albany NY, and I'm not sure what would go on at the border. The phone number to contact the seller is under "Seller Information".

Good luck with your search!

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...46&acctid=6286
That shorty would have been awesome! But I don't want to import a bus considering the mess that the conversion is, I don't want the trouble with the import papers! Thanks for the help! And here, school buses don't have seat belts... Go figure!

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My 40' '03 Amtran came with about 8 belts in the first two rows; all the others were old-fashioned suicide seats. My plan was to can the belts for the dining area and possibly the couch
I just noticed this. Amtran and some Internatioanls might come with belts as option. I'm wondering if simply adding the option would qualify... Worth looking out for it! Thanks!

Worst comes to worst, I found a few Flexsteel sofa/beds that CAN be equiped with belts. 3 seaters sofa with belts for 620 USD plus taxes, is steep. But if it means we CAN do the project, it's worth it!
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:28 PM   #30
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Krystal Bus for example:
Used Bus Sales, Krystal Koach KK28 E450

I saw some Ford-based here in Quebec City.
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