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Old 05-07-2019, 10:11 AM   #1
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Lotsa folx have talked about re-routing their exhaust to vent by the left rear wheels.

Some have gone fore, some aft.

I'd like to know if there are any significant impacts to the rubber getting sooted whilst cruising, after the forward choice had been opted for.

Having my toad look like it received the worst Al Jolson makeup, ever, it seems to be a wicked good thing to do. My black tank is mounted behind said wheels, so I don't anticipate any cosmetic concerns.

Tho I wonder if it's valve can be expected to smut up, and what safe clearance/shielding to prevent heat damage, since the exhaust would be venting near it's shallow end...

Choices (or relevant links) for placement, cutting, re-routing, and hanging the new configuration will be greatly appreciated!
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:33 AM   #2
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I'll be watching this thread, as we've got the same issue with our toad getting covered in soot.

I'm inclined to go in front of the rear wheel, if there's room and if the luggage bin won't get sooted up. It'd be simpler to route if behind the wheel (less cutting and removing of pipe) but then we still have that problematic bend above the axle that's apparently prone to rusting.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:38 AM   #3
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I'll be watching this thread, as we've got the same issue with our toad getting covered in soot.

I'm inclined to go in front of the rear wheel, if there's room and if the luggage bin won't get sooted up. It'd be simpler to route if behind the wheel (less cutting and removing of pipe) but then we still have that problematic bend above the axle that's apparently prone to rusting.
The foreward route is my preference, too. Spendy as that rubber is, I want to know if any of the gurus here have any info on possible deleterious effects, before making that commitment.

Easier to change from behind the wheel to ahead, prolly not so the reverse..!
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I'm considering doing this. Just because.
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Old 05-07-2019, 11:04 AM   #5
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I'm considering doing this. Just because.
Early on, I thought about putting a single stack up to roof height, but eventually decided against it.

My bus is already so under-powered, it'd be like giving a strawberry to a sow!
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If I go that route, I'll delete the muffler too.
I figure its the best way of getting the exhaust up and away.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:08 PM   #7
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If I go that route, I'll delete the muffler too.
I figure its the best way of getting the exhaust up and away.
I wonder about the noise level.

I suspect, with nothing nearby for the sound to reflect off, and as it'll be aimed upwardly, it might be only slightly louder.

Let us know!
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My TC2000 came from the factory with side exit exhaust, it's in front of the rear wheels on the driver's side.
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Wouldn't that be nice?!!I wonder about the noise level.

I suspect, with nothing nearby for the sound to reflect off, and as it'll be aimed upwardly, it might be only slightly louder.

Let us know!
A couple forum members have already deleted their mufflers with no ill effects. Seems to be a nice mod from what I've heard.
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My TC2000 came from the factory with side exit exhaust, it's in front of the rear wheels on the driver's side.
I reckon if the engineers at Bluebird & Cummings decided it was OK, we can only hope they did their testing, and didn't forget to carry the one...
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Awesome!

Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?
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A couple forum members have already deleted their mufflers with no ill effects. Seems to be a nice mod from what I've heard.
Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!

(Not a finger, one hopes...)

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Awesome!

Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!

(Not a finger, one hopes...)

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Check out Johnny Mullet's build. He detailed how he removed the muffler on his.
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I doubt the exhaust gas coming out the end of the pipes is hot enough to be worried about melting anything.
I needed the 8' space that was taking up the last of the exhaust pipe out the back to free up the space for my propane tank. It was easy as making 2 cuts at the bends, turning the cut piece 180* and reattaching with a band clamp.
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I agree. My poderation is on how hot the pipe would get, say at a protracted idle in a traffic jam, with nothing to blow it away.
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I doubt the exhaust gas coming out the end of the pipes is hot enough to be worried about melting anything.
Prolly no prob- if my spicy food preferences won't melt the tank...
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A black tank critical fail, surrounded by frustrated motorists with no escape..?

Wouldn't I suddenly become a very popular guy.
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Awesome!

Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!

(Not a finger, one hopes...)

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Sawzall with metal cutting blade. Quality 4" band clamps. 4" pipe hangers.
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This is what I did. Bought a tip for the end. Used band clamps. Painted it with high heat spray paint. Muffler is still there for now. Went out passenger side to not have to go over the driveshaft. I ride in the right lane mostly so only smoking out people on the sidewalkIMG_20190507_170608.jpegIMG_20190507_170545.jpegIMG_20190507_170614.jpeg
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That all sounds about right, from my Zen time spent on my back, staring up at my undercarriage.

(Upon reflection, that comes across as an advanced Yoga pose... )

Thank you!

I've read conflicting reports on drilling thru the I beams. Does I, or dasn't I?

Pipe hangers, or ginormous U bolts? Some of the original u-shaped exhaust hangers were welded on, I think. I'll have to check later, it's been pouring down a right choad toker here today...Reciprocating saw I got. Ryobi, sadly, not Milwaukee. High praise when a product's trademarked name becomes common parlance. Sawzall. Xerox. Velcro.

If you wanna go even older skool, there is the patented patent medicinal analgesic and manufacturer's trademarked fabric fastener.

Yup- AKA aspirin & the zipper...
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That all sounds about right, from my Zen time spent on my back, staring up at my undercarriage.

(Upon reflection, that comes across as an advanced Yoga pose... )

Thank you!

I've read conflicting reports on drilling thru the I beams. Does I, or dasn't I?

Pipe hangers, or ginormous U bolts? Some of the original u-shaped exhaust hangers were welded on, I think. I'll have to check later, it's been pouring down a right choad toker here today...Reciprocating saw I got. Ryobi, sadly, not Milwaukee. High praise when a product's trademarked name becomes common parlance. Sawzall. Xerox. Velcro.

If you wanna go even older skool, there is the patented patent medicinal analgesic and manufacturer's trademarked fabric fastener.

Yup- AKA aspirin & the zipper...
What "I" beams are you contemplating drilling?
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