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05-07-2019, 09:11 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
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The One Cheek Sneak
Lotsa folx have talked about re-routing their exhaust to vent by the left rear wheels.
Some have gone fore, some aft.
I'd like to know if there are any significant impacts to the rubber getting sooted whilst cruising, after the forward choice had been opted for.
Having my toad look like it received the worst Al Jolson makeup, ever, it seems to be a wicked good thing to do. My black tank is mounted behind said wheels, so I don't anticipate any cosmetic concerns.
Tho I wonder if it's valve can be expected to smut up, and what safe clearance/shielding to prevent heat damage, since the exhaust would be venting near it's shallow end...
Choices (or relevant links) for placement, cutting, re-routing, and hanging the new configuration will be greatly appreciated!
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05-07-2019, 09:33 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,428
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
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I'll be watching this thread, as we've got the same issue with our toad getting covered in soot.
I'm inclined to go in front of the rear wheel, if there's room and if the luggage bin won't get sooted up. It'd be simpler to route if behind the wheel (less cutting and removing of pipe) but then we still have that problematic bend above the axle that's apparently prone to rusting.
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05-07-2019, 09:38 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
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Welcome, and thanx for tuning in!
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Originally Posted by Drew Bru
I'll be watching this thread, as we've got the same issue with our toad getting covered in soot.
I'm inclined to go in front of the rear wheel, if there's room and if the luggage bin won't get sooted up. It'd be simpler to route if behind the wheel (less cutting and removing of pipe) but then we still have that problematic bend above the axle that's apparently prone to rusting.
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The foreward route is my preference, too. Spendy as that rubber is, I want to know if any of the gurus here have any info on possible deleterious effects, before making that commitment.
Easier to change from behind the wheel to ahead, prolly not so the reverse..!
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05-07-2019, 09:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
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I'm considering doing this. Just because.
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05-07-2019, 10:04 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Year: 1998
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Nice! And not, if ya can?
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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I'm considering doing this. Just because.
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Early on, I thought about putting a single stack up to roof height, but eventually decided against it.
My bus is already so under-powered, it'd be like giving a strawberry to a sow!
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05-07-2019, 10:49 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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If I go that route, I'll delete the muffler too.
I figure its the best way of getting the exhaust up and away.
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05-07-2019, 11:08 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
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Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
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Wouldn't that be nice?!!
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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If I go that route, I'll delete the muffler too.
I figure its the best way of getting the exhaust up and away.
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I wonder about the noise level.
I suspect, with nothing nearby for the sound to reflect off, and as it'll be aimed upwardly, it might be only slightly louder.
Let us know! [emoji111]
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05-07-2019, 11:30 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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My TC2000 came from the factory with side exit exhaust, it's in front of the rear wheels on the driver's side.
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05-07-2019, 11:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haz.matt.1960
Wouldn't that be nice?!!I wonder about the noise level.
I suspect, with nothing nearby for the sound to reflect off, and as it'll be aimed upwardly, it might be only slightly louder.
Let us know! [emoji111]
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A couple forum members have already deleted their mufflers with no ill effects. Seems to be a nice mod from what I've heard.
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05-07-2019, 11:33 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Thank you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
My TC2000 came from the factory with side exit exhaust, it's in front of the rear wheels on the driver's side.
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I reckon if the engineers at Bluebird & Cummings decided it was OK, we can only hope they did their testing, and didn't forget to carry the one...
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05-07-2019, 11:36 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Awesome!
Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?
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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
A couple forum members have already deleted their mufflers with no ill effects. Seems to be a nice mod from what I've heard.
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Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!
(Not a finger, one hopes...)
Tool recommendations for the job?
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05-07-2019, 11:44 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haz.matt.1960
Awesome!
Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!
(Not a finger, one hopes...)
Tool recommendations for the job?
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Check out Johnny Mullet's build. He detailed how he removed the muffler on his.
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05-07-2019, 11:47 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Will do, thankya sir!
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Check out Johnny Mullet's build. He detailed how he removed the muffler on his.
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05-07-2019, 12:05 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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I doubt the exhaust gas coming out the end of the pipes is hot enough to be worried about melting anything.
I needed the 8' space that was taking up the last of the exhaust pipe out the back to free up the space for my propane tank. It was easy as making 2 cuts at the bends, turning the cut piece 180* and reattaching with a band clamp.
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05-07-2019, 12:19 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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I agree. My poderation is on how hot the pipe would get, say at a protracted idle in a traffic jam, with nothing to blow it away.
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Originally Posted by o1marc
I doubt the exhaust gas coming out the end of the pipes is hot enough to be worried about melting anything.
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Prolly no prob- if my spicy food preferences won't melt the tank...
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05-07-2019, 12:22 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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A black tank critical fail, surrounded by frustrated motorists with no escape..?
Wouldn't I suddenly become a very popular guy.
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05-07-2019, 05:04 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brevard County, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haz.matt.1960
Awesome!
Did they also deflect skyward, or off the pavement?Guess what I'll be hacking off presently?!!
(Not a finger, one hopes...)
Tool recommendations for the job?
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Sawzall with metal cutting blade. Quality 4" band clamps. 4" pipe hangers.
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05-07-2019, 05:08 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brevard County, FL
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Year: 1990
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Chassis: Ford
Engine: 6.6 New Holland Diesel
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05-07-2019, 05:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninjakitty
Sawzall with metal cutting blade. Quality 4" band clamps. 4" pipe hangers.
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That all sounds about right, from my Zen time spent on my back, staring up at my undercarriage.
(Upon reflection, that comes across as an advanced Yoga pose... [emoji848] )
Thank you!
I've read conflicting reports on drilling thru the I beams. Does I, or dasn't I?
Pipe hangers, or ginormous U bolts? Some of the original u-shaped exhaust hangers were welded on, I think. I'll have to check later, it's been pouring down a right choad toker here today...Reciprocating saw I got. Ryobi, sadly, not Milwaukee. High praise when a product's trademarked name becomes common parlance. Sawzall. Xerox. Velcro.
If you wanna go even older skool, there is the patented patent medicinal analgesic and manufacturer's trademarked fabric fastener.
Yup- AKA aspirin & the zipper...
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05-07-2019, 05:50 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haz.matt.1960
That all sounds about right, from my Zen time spent on my back, staring up at my undercarriage.
(Upon reflection, that comes across as an advanced Yoga pose... [emoji848] )
Thank you!
I've read conflicting reports on drilling thru the I beams. Does I, or dasn't I?
Pipe hangers, or ginormous U bolts? Some of the original u-shaped exhaust hangers were welded on, I think. I'll have to check later, it's been pouring down a right choad toker here today...Reciprocating saw I got. Ryobi, sadly, not Milwaukee. High praise when a product's trademarked name becomes common parlance. Sawzall. Xerox. Velcro.
If you wanna go even older skool, there is the patented patent medicinal analgesic and manufacturer's trademarked fabric fastener.
Yup- AKA aspirin & the zipper...
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What "I" beams are you contemplating drilling?
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