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Old 01-22-2018, 04:24 PM   #11
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From an NC SKOOLIE if you are lookin at the older busses. Stay away from the 8.2/545 and all the older busses with computers were rear geared engine built for there top speed. So no governors to adjust.
I am stuck at 49 without changing something. Several options just haven't decided.
The activity busses are geared for higher speed but are around 55-59
The newer computer controlled are only limited by the computer parameters as for as I know.
What county are you in?
What type of bus are you looking for?
I know of two flat nose mid size busses in Wayne county that look real good and probably came from the Air Force base so probably maintained and already run highway speeds easily.
Otherwise I would look into counties like mecklenburg and north into the mountain areas for a good drivetrain and capable engine/tranny cooling system for highway speeds/travel.
Good luck
Forgot.....as far as what I'm looking for: definitely Transit style. Not too picky about it being front or rear engined but I hear it's easier to get to the engine to work on with a pusher. So, Transit style with a reliable and proven type of engine are really my only two "must haves". The higher the roof the better too I guess, I'd rather not do a roof raise...

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Old 01-22-2018, 04:26 PM   #12
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I will be in the area tomorrow and if I remember I will stop and get pics and contact info.
It is a dealership but both buses are already a deep blue with white roof so I am thinking he got them from Seymour Johnson air base.
I will let you know tomorrow night.
Sweet. I'm over Mebane way pretty often. Got a buddy who lives there and I own a rental house between Carrboro and Mebane.

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Old 01-22-2018, 04:33 PM   #13
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I can't remember the exit I used to get to the job in MEBANE but anyway the bus barn was before MEBANE but I could only drool as I was running by to keep up but it was after the 40/85 merge.
Not hard to miss what's on the sides of the interstate when your trying to watch out for the other idiots next to you.
Cool your not in a hurry.
Hopefully we can help you get the right bus for your intentions.
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:16 PM   #14
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I sent you a PM a few minutes ago with contact info and the seller called me the second I hit send.
A little bit of info.
Both buses are Thomas 28-passenger. He called them THOMAS 2 lane or something like that (maybe someone here can clarify that)
Both have CAT engines that he thinks are L7's
Don't know the transmission or rear gears but said they will do 70mph.
Both came from an Air Force base in SC
One has 14,000 miles and one has 21,000 miles
With those low miles you can expect sticker shock
14,000 mile bus at 17,000
And the 21,000 mile bus 16,000$
If anyone could swing it these buses haven't even been broke in yet as far as a diesel goes.
What does the rest of the forum think?
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:14 PM   #15
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I sent you a PM a few minutes ago with contact info and the seller called me the second I hit send.
A little bit of info.
Both buses are Thomas 28-passenger. He called them THOMAS 2 lane or something like that (maybe someone here can clarify that)
Both have CAT engines that he thinks are L7's
Don't know the transmission or rear gears but said they will do 70mph.
Both came from an Air Force base in SC
One has 14,000 miles and one has 21,000 miles
With those low miles you can expect sticker shock
14,000 mile bus at 17,000
And the 21,000 mile bus 16,000$
If anyone could swing it these buses haven't even been broke in yet as far as a diesel goes.
What does the rest of the forum think?
Thanks for checking that out! Looks like they're a bit out of my price range tho :/ Plus I think I'd like to avoid the CAT engines after some of what I've read elsewhere on the forum. Sounds like they are more expensive to fix and more prone to breaking than the Cummins or IH engines. BUT, with the low mileage on those two I'm sure they'll last a good long while for someone

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Old 01-23-2018, 06:44 PM   #16
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Thanks for checking that out! Looks like they're a bit out of my price range tho :/ Plus I think I'd like to avoid the CAT engines after some of what I've read elsewhere on the forum. Sounds like they are more expensive to fix and more prone to breaking than the Cummins or IH engines. BUT, with the low mileage on those two I'm sure they'll last a good long while for someone

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A note on the CATs. There is little evidence that they are more prone to breaking, at least not the 2004 and earlier.

Indeed, they are more resistant to over-heating than are engines with wet liners.

They are more expensive to fix.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:55 PM   #17
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Way out of my price and with the mileage they should be going for 20$. I know there are opinions about the CATS. Some swear buy them and some hate them?
I have had many in heavy equipment that were great. There is a ton of support around here for anything CAt through GRegory POOLE if you do end up with one and I am working on a gas line and heaters for a Detroit and Allison shop where the mechanics are happy to talk in spurts. The office guys only want big money but the men in the shop are happy to talk to me cause they have never had heat and I am giving them some.
Not enough for where and what they need? What there owner bought?But better than nothing.
Next time I am there I am going to price a tranny swap from my 545 to a 643?
BloemRV seems to be happy with the upgrade after his Troubles?
I will keep my eyes open but I think mecklenburg or north will get the powertrain and a few bad body or floor metal in spots is nothing to fix.
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Next time I am there I am going to price a tranny swap from my 545 to a 643?
BloemRV seems to be happy with the upgrade after his Troubles?
YES! I am thrilled with the results. Drives like a different bus. Obviously sucked to have to deal with all that, but the outcome is sweet!

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YES! I am thrilled with the results. Drives like a different bus. Obviously sucked to have to deal with all that, but the outcome is sweet!

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Better power, more mpg's, and actual engine braking... Yeah its a hell of a great upgrade!!!
Why I try to push people to upgrade or look for one without the 545.
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Better power, more mpg's, and actual engine braking... Yeah its a hell of a great upgrade!!!
Why I try to push people to upgrade or look for one without the 545.
I was just about to ask what y'all thought about the 545 & the 5.9 Cummins....From the searching I've done it seems like the transit style Blue Birds seems to come with the Cummins more often that the Thomas busses I've seen, mostly CAT engines there. The Blue Birds seems to also come with the 545 most of the time too. So I gather I should keep my eyes open for something better or just factor in an eventual upgrade?

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