This conversation occurred in another thread recently and I think that it's good information to have easily accessible.
Original thread: I am thinking about this one
Firstly, this is a Budd:
And this is a Dayton:
Please note that no modern Dayton wheels use split-rims
! If you have a Dayton wheel with a tire that requires an inner tube you may have split-rims. If you're running tubeless then you don't.
Dayton wheels (spoke wheels; wagon wheels)
- tires can be changed with a breaker bar, torque wrench and something on the ground to check trueness of wheels;
- The donut shaped and lighter rim makes it easier to lift and move a spare into place (though still freakin' heavy);
- usually 5 or 6 lug nuts to remove;
- they look gnarly.
- takes some work to get them true;
- can slip if not tightened properly;
- it's possible that some shops will charge more to work on them (just a guess);
- they look gnarly (this one is obviously subjective )
- Other info:
- recommended dry torque of 200-260ft.lbs for 3/4"-10 studs; 150-175ft.lbs for 5/8"-11 studs.
- Always true (unless damaged);
- clean looking;
- all heavy-duty shops can work on them.
- Spare + rim is effin' heavy;
- 3/4" drive impact wrench required to remove lug nuts;
- 6-10 lug nuts to remove;
- Other info:
- Recommended dry torque of 450-500ft.lbs.
I did my research on the subject before purchasing my bus, but - at the time - didn't really care one way or the other. In the end I'm glad I have Daytons since I can deal with them myself; whether on the road or in the driveway. I've had most of the wheels off at one point or another and put them all back. They aren't very difficult to install, though I can understand how a fleet would be more efficient with Budds. For me, an extra 15 minutes isn't a big deal. That time would add up for a fleet.
These two pamphlets provides torque information and tightening patterns:
Webb Torque Specifications
Wheel and Tire Specifications
Dayton tire installation video, courtesy of PDBreske:
New tire installation on Dayton wheels
Anyone have anything to add?