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Old 08-13-2011, 12:22 PM   #31
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Re: Whose getting 10+ mpg and what engine is it?

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... ps. I m real happy with that mileage, alot of class C only get 6-8 mpg
Like mine and it's half the size of the bus!!!!
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:40 AM   #32
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Re: Whose getting 10+ mpg and what engine is it?

so from rabun gap to meridian you used somewhere around 30 gallons of fuel... 400m/30g=13.5mpg still good
then Meridian to socorro and still only used approximaetly 35 gallons of fuel?.. 1149m/35g=32.8 mpg WOW was the class c pulling you for part of that way?


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After finding my notes from our trip out west, we traveled 1700+ miles and bought 70 gallons of diesel.


I think you may have forgot about a few fuel stops you made. By your figures, you got over 24 mpg on that trip. If you did get that kinda fuel mileage, I wanna know what brand fuel your using so I can start fueling there myself. Also, what engine, transmission, and rear end ratio your running.

I kept a log of our fuel and mileage on the way out to NM... just like I do for all our trips. I did not forget any of the stops. Kinda hard when you have someone laughing at you because you have to fuel up daily (I refueled every morning... twice the day I got hung up getting out of a parking lot and did 85mph in the Class C to catch up with David & Stacey... back end of that carborator opened up and flat sucked the gas). The odometer readings are from the Class C. The fuel amounts are from the bus. Since the fuel gauge on the bus didn't work, we weren't sure of what other gauges (like the odometer) might be off so we held to the Class C's which we knew were accurate. The bus' odometer was accurate compared to the Class C. The trip out west proved that.

Odometer beginning: 89729
Odometer Ending: 91447
Total miles : 1718 miles traveled
Date: Fuel (gallons): Price per gallon: Location:
7/2/2009 10 gal (2 5 gallon jugs and they were 5 gallons exactly... this is from picking up the bus. We drove it home from Bryson City and it sat in the driveway while we stripped out seat and loaded our stuff.)
7/7/2009 32.845 $2.359 Exxon @ Rabun Gap, GA
7/9/2009 34.095 $2.339 Shell @ Meridian, MS

Total fuel 76.94 gallons Diesel.
David quit refueling because we did not know how old the fuel in the tank was when we bought it (it was pretty much full and the bus had been sitting in a field for several months when we bought it). He wanted to use up the "old" diesel and when it got close to empty, refuel.

Our last night on the road was spent in the Sam's Club parking lot in Roswell, NM. David pulled into the Sam's Club gas station to fill up the bus since we were going to be crossing a desert and we were figuring there would be no fuel for the last leg of our run to Socorro (we were wrong but the day before I had to back track 35 miles to Tatum on the way to Roswell to refuel the Class C... which makes the recorded mileage a little high). That particular Sam's Club has a diesel pump and you can get a 40 ft bus into it... and out...pulling a jeep. David put $5 of diesel in the bus. It wouldn't take any more. I did not count that $5 worth of fuel since I counted the initial 10 gallons that we put into the bus when we drove it from Bryson City down Needmore (winding gravel back road) to Franklin when we picked up the bus. But even if you add in the 2 gallons of fuel from Sam's, and rounding off, it's still under 100 gallons diesel and we traveled right at 1700 miles. Stacey & I got tired of David laughing at us because we kept having to refuel and he didn't.

5.2L Turbo Cummins Diesel. I'm not sure what the rear end is. I think it is 5:33 but I will look today and edit post this evening if it is different.

When we left NC, the bus odometer read 90707.6... The motor is original and has not been rebuilt (or so we were told).

Just an FYI...
About Sam's Clubs and diesel... many do not have diesel... about half of all the Sam's that we have been at have a diesel pump but are geared to a car using them not really a big rig. So even if a Sam's does have diesel, there's no telling if you can get in/out of the station. The Sam's in Johnson City, TN is the best set up for big rigs I have seen, they also have semi's refueling there. We do not have a Sam's membership for fuel discount. So don't get a membership because of that. We don't buy enough fuel to warrant the $35/yr (business) membership fee. But we do park in their parking lots (even when you can't park at the WalMart next door), buy most of our food from them (and now we buy for our food vending business) and get in early for that free coffee and sweet breads they have out for their business members. You do not need to PROVE that you have a business to get a business membership. We just put it in our business name. Stacey has her membership under the name she does her artwork under (Psychotic Kumquat Ink). Personal membership is $40 or $45. Business membership is $35. Business is slightly cheaper and you get to get in the store before normal operating hours. Comes in handy for us.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:05 PM   #33
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Re: Whose getting 10+ mpg and what engine is it?

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Narrowing things down in my bus search. I know there is a best engine thread I started, and also a mileage thread but the mileage thread doesn't say what engine you had so..

I'm hearing people with Cummins 5.9 and Cummins 8.3 report 10mpg or above so far. Is there anyone getting lower mileage with those engines? Is anyone with other engines getting 10mpg or better? Please post, I want to see how common these observations are, and under what conditions. (speed, hills, loads) I kept telling myself "well I dont plan to drive it much at all" but if I plan to put 10,000 miles on it over the next few years, that alone would pay for a $2000-4000 difference in fuel or even a whole 'nother backup bus.

So this is JUST for people getting 10mpg reliably at highway speeds (55mph counts), what is your engine?
I'm a commercial driver (Owner/operator) of a 1999 Freightliner. My first engine, a Cummins ISC is just now being retired after 700K miles. I expect to get even more from my new Cummins ISL.

Due to my going back to work full time, I have a skoolie for sale. ***** espiritusengineering@yahoo.com for complete details.*****

The major increase in mileage with these vehicles has been in streamlining and weight reduction, as well as decreasing internal friction with the use of synthetic lubricants and KEEPING these lubricants CLEAN.

Horsepower is horsepower and NO manufacturer (despite advertising nonsense) has the magic formula for getting more btu's from a gallon of fuel than anyone else.

Again, No one really gets more "go" from a gallon of fuel than anyone else.
Many who claim otherwise are self DELUDED to make themselves feel good.

That being said, the older 4.53, 6.53, 6.71 and 8.71 (two cycle/ two stroke) Detroits really gobbled the fuel but you'll never see one of these in a skoolie. These supercharged, two stroke engines had a "power stroke" everytime the piston came up. Just like a really big dirt bike. These engines are dinosaurs and are seldom seen in modern vehicles.

Decreasing a vehicle's weight and decreasing WINDAGE is another way of increasing mileage.
To "keep up" with the cars on hills, requires the average Big Rig to have a 600hp (3406 cat, Detroit series 60 or Cummins ISX) 2500 pound engine and 600 pound ten or thirteen speed Eaton tranny.
To whit: SPEED is MONEY and it costs, no matter who you are or what you're driving unless you're on a test track somewhere.

Decreasing an engine's INTERNAL friction by using synthetic oils is another way of increasing mileage.
One of the above mention engines costs $500.00 to fill'er up with Royal Purple or Mobil One synthetic PLUS filter(s)
Thats why "super filters" like Puradyn and centrifuges like MY skoolies spinner II are so popular.
The oil is cleaned, NOT thrown away every so often.

The engine's cooling FAN can cause "parasitic" losses up to (50) FIFTY horsepower just to cool the engine at
lower speeds. Waterless synthetic oolants like Evans Coolant can allow the raising of the fan's thermal clutch cut-in
temperature to keep the fan off longer and so save money...fuel.

There's not much can be done with a bus/ skoolie except KEEP YOUR SPEED DOWN.

Pushing that Big, Blunt windshield down the highway at 65-70 mph is gonna cost you, whether you're drivng a bus or a Kenworth. The newer rigs are much more streamlined than the older rigs were, with big radiators and lots of chrome.
The Classic Pete's and Kenworths sure looked pretty, but at a cost.
Diesel fuel in the 60's was 20 cents a gallon so who cared about fuel milage???

Keeping the speed down 55-60 is good medicine for both buses and Big Rigs.

******** Unfortunately, the newer and more streamlined buses also come with Electronically injected (work of the devil) engines, that can be a nightmare to work on and fantastically expensive to buy parts for. Stay away from these*********

Get an older bus with a MECHANICALLY injected engine for durability and longevity. You cant hardly kill one of these older engines.
A small amount of water in a sh_tty factory fuel filter can cause the ruination of thousands of dollar worth of electronic injectors as the micrscopic bits of water FLASH into steam upon ignition and erode the injector tips.

Pri-D is GREAT for keeping the exhaust smoke to a minimum. Its the only thing that reliably works.

I can get parts for my 1987 International 6.9l engine for "peanuts" compared to the electronically injected models and do ALL the work on it myself and save BIG bux I can tell you.

A complete set of ( eight NEW, not rebuilt, MECHANICAL injectors can be had (Stanadyne or Delphi) for less cost than just ONE rebuilt electronic injector.

Injectors for my Freightliner's ISL Cummins are $600.00 EACH (exchange) .
They cost even more without a USABLE core for exchange.

After buying an OEM mechanix guide for this 6.9L engine, all is easily fixable with simple Sears Hardware tools and a little patience.
Unless you have a laptop computer and an OEM factory program to "talk" with the engine's ECM, and a bundle of money
to spend for parts, stick with the older skoolies and have some fun. Thats what skoolies are about.
Let the civics and the rest of the worlfd "blow" on by on the hills. They aint really going anywhere.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:01 PM   #34
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Re: Whose getting 10+ mpg and what engine is it?

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so from rabun gap to meridian you used somewhere around 30 gallons of fuel... 400m/30g=13.5mpg still good
then Meridian to socorro and still only used approximately 35 gallons of fuel?.. 1149m/35g=32.8 mpg WOW was the class c pulling you for part of that way?
I'm pretty sure we did not fill up the tank in Rabun Gap. Mostly because it foamed big time (and all over the ground). But I'm not arguing on fuel usage. It matters not. We will not replace our engine or the rear end. If it can get as good or better than the Class C, then great. I really don't know why you guy get all warped over MPGs and the rear end ratio. If it's that important to you, then buy a brand new bus spec'd out to your "needs". For us, our bus is a fulltime home. If I wanted speed, I would have a fast car and no driver's license. If I wanted fuel efficiency, I would have a tent and an electric car.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:03 PM   #35
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... Due to my going back to work full time, I have a skoolie for sale. ***** espiritusengineering@yahoo.com for complete details.*****.
For heavens sake. Put it in the for sale section and shut up about it on EVERY FREAKIN' POST! I'm tired of seeing it and you just got listed as a Foe.
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For heavens sake. Put it in the for sale section and shut up about it on EVERY FREAKIN' POST! I'm tired of seeing it and you just got listed as a Foe
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... Due to my going back to work full time, I have a skoolie for sale. ***** espiritusengineering@yahoo.com for complete details.*****.
For heavens sake. Put it in the for sale section and shut up about it on EVERY FREAKIN' POST! I'm tired of seeing it and you just got listed as a Foe.

at least his posts conatin useful accurate knowledge, unlike your posts that just belittle most posters and give information you "think" happened.
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Newtoskool... I know what my mileage was. The 8.2TA Detroit Diesel Fuel Pincher turbo diesel engine (215hp) in our bus is very good on mpgs. I know we didn't put in over a100 gallons in 1700+ miles. I really don't give a flip about what you think. So what kind of engine is in YOUR bus and how is YOUR mpgs?

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Old 09-19-2011, 06:52 PM   #39
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... Due to my going back to work full time, I have a skoolie for sale. ***** espiritusengineering@yahoo.com for complete details.*****.
For heavens sake. Put it in the for sale section and shut up about it on EVERY FREAKIN' POST! I'm tired of seeing it and you just got listed as a Foe.
Sorry about that Missy.
I didnt mean for you to get your little pink panties in a bunch.
You're not my ex-wife are you?????

I fix'em, rebuild'em, mostly drive'm. I've never sold a vehicle before and dont really know how to go about it.
This is the first vehicle I've ever tried to sell. I've got 700K on a Freightliner, 300+K on a 96' Nissan pickup.
I simply dont have time for it anymore.

Suggestions are always appreciated.
I dont always follow them or I'd be Burning in H_LL already. My ex-wife's suggestion, she dont really mean it

I've got a really nice, mechanically tricked-out skoolie for sale. espiritusengineering@yahoo.com Darn, I did it again! ! ! !

I'll have pics soon as soon as I find out (from some techie-type) how to post them here.

Just bought a really nice Nikon camera but they dont take koda-chrome any more....Paul Simon anyone????

Seldom get near a computer I'm out and gone so much.

I got in a while ago and drank a bucket of coffee and stayed up half the night posting all this stuff.

I'd like to think that some of it is helpful and dont want to appear simply opinionated.

At about 5K miles /week, (some of it actually legal), Owner/Operators quickly find out what works and what dont.

I've made every mistake there is and hope someone can learn from it and not have to re-invent the wheel....
Gets expensive that way.

Hey, Missy, lets you an me get together....I'll "smooth them out" for you
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its easy man just goto the classified section :create a thred: describe it post pictures and post the add



Lorna agian just like I said useless information
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