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Old 10-11-2016, 05:29 PM   #1
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2005 e450 6.0 what problems?

have heard bad things about 6.0 diesels.
should i anticipate and prepare for major problems?
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Old 10-11-2016, 05:31 PM   #2
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have heard bad things about 6.0 diesels.
should i anticipate and prepare for major problems?
If you're not an ace diesel tech, then yeah you COULD be in for some major issues. Prepare to spend some money and time "bulletproofing" the engine.
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:58 PM   #3
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and dont.. whastever you do dont get it Hot!.. the 6.0 has PLASTIC parts in the oil circuit.. if they melt the engine is completely destroyed.... I believe meltdown starts at Oil temperature of 260.. thats not out of the question to reach if pushing it hard and something in the cooling system fails..

2005 model year the 6.0 was a little better than its first 2 years but it could still cause issues if not careful with it..
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2005 model year the 6.0 was a little better than its first 2 years but it could still cause issues if not careful with it..
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thank you much for the warning!
i also understand there are very often problems with the system that recirculates
the unburnt fuel...something to do with emissions.
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the EGR cooler could be an issue.. as could the engine oil cooler..

alot of people hook their 6.0's up with a OBD-II dongle and an android app TorquePro to watch live, the various portions of the computer.. a lot can be learned by watching what the computer thinks and does..

a forum member ruined the International version of a 6.0 (VT-365) last week because it ran hot and he decided to drive that extra couple miles to an exit... he melted the oil filter plastic components.. that engine is done...

its important to watch engine Oil temperature.. ford nor international gives that gauge on the dash however it can be read from the computer..

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is that it for major "common" 6.0 major issues...? keep it cool?...i love this handy little bluebird school bus, almost in perfect condition, but the warnings i've been running across about the 6.0 make me think i should sell it and find another more reliable diesel shorty.
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have heard bad things about 6.0 diesels.
should i anticipate and prepare for major problems?
Isn't there a class action lawsuit going on over the 6.0?
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Isn't there a class action lawsuit going on over the 6.0?[/QUOTE]

yes, but settled...looks like a pretty restrictive settlement at that...methinks.
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theres a ton of 6.0's out there still on the road... your bus has made it this far... the 03 / 04 were the worst years.. .theres also tons of information on the net about how to make your 6.0 run forever...

alot of people's 6.0 issues came about as they ran the piss out of them.. poulling hard, driving fast, using programmers to make more horsepower..

dirty oil is another culprit.. any of the International engines with an 'E' at the end its imperative to run clean oil and clean coolant of the proper type..

one of the issues was that after internationbal designed the engine, ford claimed it was too pricey to put in a consumer level truck so they made international cheapen some of the parts to save money.. and then ford wanted more HP / TQ than the international version put out so couopled with cheaper parts in the first couple years and running them harder they got a bad rap..

the predecessor to it the 7.3 didnt seem to have as many issues, though alot of the components are similar in the ford 7.3 and the international T-444E.. International didnt make them to be raced...

some of the stuff I mention like temperatures, clean oil and coolant apply to ALL diesel engines... even the old mechanical DT-466's..

psaying attention to things like any "skip" or miss in the engine as well as oil -level.. (is your oil level going UP?.. could mean a bad injector), and such..

my Guess is that the 6.0's in school busses are much more lightly used than those in some 20-something's Power stroke that has to be Loud and Fast to his buddies...

a lot of the vids i watch on powerstrokehelp's youtube channel are of engines that were abused or not shut down quickly at the first sign of an issue...

if you do plan to run lots of miles on the bus there are things to do to bulletproof a 6.0.. I thin theres a thread on here where a forum member documented his bulletproofing of a 6.0..

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Ok, the 6.0 is not as bad as people want to say they are. Its mostly in the electronics. International used them in equipment and had very few issues. When Ford started putting them in the trucks, Ford insisted on doing their own electronics. This is where the problems are. Everything is controlled electronically. The biggest issues that come to mind here are EGR issues. You either need a cooler or an EGR delete. Delete it if you can, and if allowed in your state. HPOP- High Pressure Oil Pump. The injectors need pretty high PSI behind them to get them to pop off. TONS of these trucks break down due to this. Its not something that you have a warning about, they don't slowly wear out, just one day your engine will not start due to low pressure. Sensors are always hit and miss. I believe mine had 3 seperate engine coolant sensors. (I replaced my 6.0 with a 5.9 cummins). Clean fuel is a MUST if you get ANY debris through the filters to the injectors, its bye-bye-injector. Also, any repairs on this engine is BIG $$$. On the bright side, when they run good, they have LOADS of power, smooth, and clean. I feel a lot of the new diesels are so powerful, that if ANYTHING goes wrong, it can mean huge failures that result in the engine tearing itself apart. I'm not telling you to buy or not to buy, but the prices on them are low for a good reason. Also, I know nothing of them in buses, this is just my experience in Ford trucks....... Also, the 6.4 is a step up, but still riddled with problems.
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