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Old 02-07-2019, 03:55 PM   #11
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IMHO I'd go with something on a medium duty chassis. Like a type B style bus vs a type A, which is what most of your van chassis are.

It depends on your weight mainly. You might be able to get by with a van chassis, it all depends on the weight rating of the chassis/axles. But if you start with a van that weighs 7000 lbs, and has a gvw of 10,000 lbs, you've only got 3000 lbs of occupants, stage, and cargo. And that's assuming the weight will be distributed perfectly(it never is).

We maintained a fleet of cutaways and type B busses for the local council on aging and the cutaways were in twice as often for repairs and maintenance. Stuff just didn't seem as over-built/over-engineered and as durable on them.

I would have to agree with that.

The type B is generally heavier duty and easier to service than a cutaway.
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:08 PM   #12
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Do you have a recommendation that is still a shortie?

I think they are referring to something similar to what I have (I hope this link works):


https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kE32MLLbVx58EKL6
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:11 PM   #13
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I think they are referring to something similar to what I have (I hope this link works):


https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kE32MLLbVx58EKL6

I see your shorty and raise you one!
Well- only one is mine now.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:57 AM   #14
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That's what you want right there. At least that's what I would get. Those guys can speak for what they paid, but I'm fairly certain you should be able to find one of them for the same price as what you're currently looking at.
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:19 PM   #15
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That's what you want right there. At least that's what I would get. Those guys can speak for what they paid, but I'm fairly certain you should be able to find one of them for the same price as what you're currently looking at.

I paid $2500 for mine (plus $250 auction fee). I spoke with the school bus barn manager and mechanics who gave me a good history of this particular bus (and even the maintenance records just for asking!). I arrived after payment and drove it home - they did advise me the batteries may be questionable, but "should be OK to get you home". I ended up having to replace them a few months ago.


The main reason I went with one of these, and not a cutaway style bus is as the others described. The GVWR of mine is 25500, and although I haven't weighed it, I am guessing probably around 11K empty. If some drunk ever crashes into it at high speed, I want as much chance to walk away unharmed as I can get (I don't feel sorry for someone driving drunk). These buses have full thickness frames and heavy duty axles and springs. I'll probably never overload it. It uses the same heavy duty brakes (or at least similar) as tractor-trailers ... you get the idea.


I have "Commercial Vehicle for Personal Use" insurance, most folks pay somewhere around $50 a month for it.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:04 AM   #16
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I think they are referring to something similar to what I have (I hope this link works):


https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kE32MLLbVx58EKL6
That is in fact *exactly* what I first fell in love with. There was one at Western Bus Sales for $12,500 but it was sold before I could get her.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:09 AM   #17
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I would have to agree with that.

The type B is generally heavier duty and easier to service than a cutaway.
Makes sense. Thanks!
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:18 AM   #18
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I paid $2500 for mine (plus $250 auction fee). I spoke with the school bus barn manager and mechanics who gave me a good history of this particular bus (and even the maintenance records just for asking!). I arrived after payment and drove it home - they did advise me the batteries may be questionable, but "should be OK to get you home". I ended up having to replace them a few months ago.


The main reason I went with one of these, and not a cutaway style bus is as the others described. The GVWR of mine is 25500, and although I haven't weighed it, I am guessing probably around 11K empty.
Good to know! That's a lot cheaper than what Western Bus Sales had. I'm nervous about auctions. I have a lot of skills, and being a mechanic isn't one of them! But the more I read and interact here, the more confident I'm getting!

Weight is my biggest concern - that and head height on the cutaway. The cost for raising the roof - in dollars and work - will be a lot.

And I'll be taking the bus to a weigh station for exactly this reason. It's GVWR is 25,500 lbs also. Which seems feasible with what I want to do... depending on its weight.
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Old 02-09-2019, 04:53 AM   #19
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That is in fact *exactly* what I first fell in love with. There was one at Western Bus Sales for $12,500 but it was sold before I could get her.
I got this one for $1625. Prob what the dealer paid for that one they wanted 12k for.


They don't sell for more than a few grand at auctions.
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Auctions are looking better and better...
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