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Old 01-28-2015, 11:53 PM   #1
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I'm thinking of buying this http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4863253931.html , even though I prefer Ford and International. Could anyone tell me potential mechanical and electrical issues with this type of bus? I don't know what kind of engine it has. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:11 AM   #2
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According to the VIN it has a 6.2 V8 diesel
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:55 AM   #3
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Just being honest- I'd hold out for a clean, un-fugglied one with less rust and crust. That "paint job" just doesnt lead me to believe the current owner takes the bus very seriously. Possibly another "rode hard put up wet" type.
Patience is the key when shopping. There are plenty of cheap fish in the sea of buses.
Thats just my free opinion, take it for face value.
I prefer to buy them direct and have that fresh-from-the-school feel.
If you're going with a one ton, van type chassis, go for a later model. The GM 6.5 in them is a much better engine than the 6.2. The 6.2's run fine, but they aren't very popular engines. Low powered from what I've heard.
I know you're probably thinking power isn't a big issue since its a skoolie, but in the mountains and hills out there, and with a "house" in it, you're going to want a powerful diesel.
I'd call if you're really interested in it, though. See how flexible they are on the price.
If it doesn't look like everything mechanical has been maintained and is currently good, I'd move on. There are just so many great deals on the shorties out there.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:59 AM   #4
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The GM P30 chassis is a 1-ton pickup chassis on steroids. It is the same chassis used by the OEM's that make bread trucks and other light delivery vans.

GVWR is usuallly about 14,000 lbs. Which doesn't give you muchcarrying capacity due to the fact the empty bus will weigh more than 10,000 lbs.

Because most of those buses get worked really hard the suspensions take a beating. Springs, spring hangers, shocks, shock mounts, and ball joints/king pins all take a real beating. I have seen shock mounts break and go through the floor

The thing is, at the asking price if it runs and has a clear title it might be a good deal. It is worth almost that much as scrap.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:03 AM   #5
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I've seen one of these, running, for as low as 500. recently, even.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:38 AM   #6
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I'd hold out as well. I'm not saying you won't find a diamond in the rough but by the looks of the pictures, I highly doubt this is it. I also doubt that it had any sort of PM schedule since they've owned it. Like Cowlitz said, these are weighing close to the design capacity, which isn't very desirable. I'm going to include wheel bearings, brakes, tires on his list as well. If you're wanting something to park, then buy it. But if you're even considering traveling with it, I'd suggest something else.
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:11 PM   #7
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http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auc...ew?auc=1277221Here is a sweet smaller fullsize bus in Wa. I sure wish I could find one like this over here on the east coast.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:21 PM   #8
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I sure wish I could find one like this over here on the east coast.
I'm with you on that. All I could find in a 1000 miles were either rotted out piles of scrap, or something that was too new for my budget. DT466 with a fuller 5spd on the s1800(heavy duty) chassis would be ideal. Veganvegabond, if you're looking for a shorty, this would probably the one.
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@EastCoastCB, yes I'm looking for something with more power, but I'm on a severely limited budget and good buses for a good price are hard to find on the west coast. Also, on the International, I would love to get it, but I don't know if it runs or what engine it has. Plus getting to where the bus is parked is a pain since I lack a car and would be taking Amtrak or Greyhound, mainly Greyhound due to it being in Wenatchee.(Gotta love the irony if I do buy it: riding one bus to go buy another.)
@cowlitzcoach, ya I was worried about carrying capacity. since I plan to go into national parks with any bus I get. Also plan to move into said bus, so I do worry about major breakdowns.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:23 PM   #10
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Fwiw it runs and has a dt466. Runs excellent reportedly. It's really easy getting around on buses in Denver area. For where you travel this bus is as good as any in terms of drivetrain. Plus that fresh from the auction adventure is part of the fun.
I feel you on the budget part. I'm POOR��
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