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11-07-2017, 10:27 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Far out...keep the pix coming!
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11-07-2017, 11:01 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 23
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Will do. Supposed to get more today.!!
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11-08-2017, 10:09 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 23
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More pics .......
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11-08-2017, 10:36 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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How do you plan on lifting it to do the brake job?... jacks, stands, blocking, forklift? That ground may be softer than you think so maybe put pads down to.
I wish you luck in everything you tackle and you have a lot of work and fun ahead. great rig you have, nice of you to bring her back to glory days.
John
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11-09-2017, 07:25 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackJohn
How do you plan on lifting it to do the brake job?... jacks, stands, blocking, forklift? That ground may be softer than you think so maybe put pads down to.
I wish you luck in everything you tackle and you have a lot of work and fun ahead. great rig you have, nice of you to bring her back to glory days.
John
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They have a MF tractor with a forklift I was going to lift it with. I'm in the process of trying to get a guy to build me a couple of jack stands. I have several I use with my tractors (large harbor freight ones) but I feel like I need some bigger and more heavy duty for the Bus. I can cut some boards and make some pads.
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11-09-2017, 09:59 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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I am wanting to buy a couple of jacks and stands but have no idea what it would take to lift the rear axle up off the ground. Can anyone suggest how much weight there might be to lift or the size of jacks needed to lift the bus?
Thanks in advance,
John
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11-09-2017, 10:18 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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You are going to need a can of PB Blaster and a cheater bar. Soak, tap lightly...wait. Power wash first would be nice.
Nixon was President last time anyone was in there. Go get 'em. 
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11-09-2017, 10:44 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 23
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Already Got them on my list!
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11-09-2017, 11:03 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackJohn
I am wanting to buy a couple of jacks and stands but have no idea what it would take to lift the rear axle up off the ground. Can anyone suggest how much weight there might be to lift or the size of jacks needed to lift the bus?
Thanks in advance,
John
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Depends a bit on the bus.
A bus weighing 9 ton will have about 6 ton on the rear axle. You need to lift about half of that.
A 6 ton hydraulic jack would lift it comfortably, and I'd be happy with axle stands rated to the same (each).
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11-09-2017, 11:10 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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A torch comes in handy when dealing with ancient, rust welded nuts & bolts. The Heat It & Beat It routine will usually break them loose.
You can also home brew a rust penetrant that according to DOD testing works better than anything commercially available.
50% Acetone + 50% Tranny fluid. Just gotta keep it shaken up.
It works. Owning a 70+ year old bus, I have had to try just about every product & method for loosening things.
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11-09-2017, 11:28 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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remember when buying jackstands to see if they are rated as singles or as a pair.. it is required that be noted.. and many HF sets are sold with the rating per pair...
John,
if your bus is driveable you can drive it to the cat scales and they will weight each axle..
-Christopher
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11-09-2017, 12:23 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Depends a bit on the bus.
A bus weighing 9 ton will have about 6 ton on the rear axle. You need to lift about half of that.
A 6 ton hydraulic jack would lift it comfortably, and I'd be happy with axle stands rated to the same (each).
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Thanks for this Twigg, (Steve) as I was thinking of cribbing up something to take the weight off the ground a few inches. I have an 8 ton jack but didn't try it yet so maybe I should go a bit bigger. We shall see, many thanks again.
John
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11-09-2017, 12:29 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
remember when buying jackstands to see if they are rated as singles or as a pair.. it is required that be noted.. and many HF sets are sold with the rating per pair...
John,
if your bus is driveable you can drive it to the cat scales and they will weight each axle..
-Christopher
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Great point Christopher re the rating as to singles or pairs. Thought I had read someplace the stands should be rated so each stand would stand the strain. Thanks for the reminder. Cribbing should do it I think in the short term. No idea what the bus weighs right now but use cribbing for my boat which is around 17 tons. The bus might be half that I suspect on each axle.
All this needed just to turn the driveshaft enough to reconnect the universal joint at the differential.
John
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11-09-2017, 02:12 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
A torch comes in handy when dealing with ancient, rust welded nuts & bolts. The Heat It & Beat It routine will usually break them loose.
You can also home brew a rust penetrant that according to DOD testing works better than anything commercially available.
50% Acetone + 50% Tranny fluid. Just gotta keep it shaken up.
It works. Owning a 70+ year old bus, I have had to try just about every product & method for loosening things.
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I actually use that mixture and PB blaster on the old tractors I work on!!
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