Teach me (?!?!?!?)

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

go to a local garage and skip the dealership.. theres usually a local garage that specializes in imports.. I know we have them all over up here (since they build 10s of thousands of hondas in this central ohio area every year maybe there are more shops?) nevertheless i see such shops all the time in various towns in florida..

you copuld even put an add on TAKL or OfferUp and see if a local m echanic moght come out for cash and do it.. and in that case you could learn while they do asmost pf those type cars are pretty cool.. whereas a dealer is just gonna whisk it away and tell you to drink terrible coffee in the overly-air-conditioned customer waiting room.
-Christopher

Yes, I very much prefer to work with a local mechanic; but thats what I was going after with my previous shop and its what got me here now.
I guess is hard to find someone I can trust. . . (not that I trust the dealership either)

Let me see what I can search on the websites you mentioned and google local shops.

[cadillackid]

dont forget the bartyr rule either.. if you have a skill and someone else has a skill ..trade and swap skills.. ive fixed a few A/C's this summer .. people gave back in trade.. free pizzas because they own a pizza joint, get the lawn mowed when im travelling, etc.. another friend borrowed my truck and gave me a few free haircuts because he couldnt afford to rent a truck but cuts hair by trade (and is who I use anyway)..

I trade skills and stuff all the time.. mist generally its always a win-win for everyone

-Christopher

[oricha1984]

Still pending to get quote at dealership, but mmm, maybe I tackle this myself.
Wish me luck either way !!!


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[Rusty]

Originally Posted by oricha1984

Still pending to get quote at dealership, but mmm, maybe I tackle this myself.
Wish me luck either way !!!

I'm rooting for you !

Go slow, don't twist that brake line- support it w/ coathanger.

Hub should have come with fresh bearing installed already??

[Brad_SwiftFur]

I was thinking the same thing about the wheel bearing? Unless there's 2?

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by Rusty

I'm rooting for you !

Go slow, don't twist that brake line- support it w/ coathanger.

Hub should have come with fresh bearing installed already??

Per the guy at AutoZone, "usually the bearing comes with the hub and all you do is get it pressed into the knuckle, but apparently for your vehicle it doesn't, they come apart."

I've tried to search online and it seems to confirm what he said. Maybe you guys can help me investigate this as well?

From reading/research: if I am going to change one log, I might as well change all 4. In the case of the Honda fit, better just change the hub entirely. The old baring can be reinstalled but given that the car has 125k miles(over 100k) and I'm already doing this repair, it makes sense to install a new bearing.

Please, correct me if you have the time to do some research, this all new to me.
I'm a noob, I just completed my first oil change less than a month ago.

Honda fit sport 2010 (generation 2)
Right front stud broken.

Thank you ![emoji2]

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[Brad_SwiftFur]

The broken part you are replacing is correctly called a stud. The fasteners that hold the wheel on are called lug nuts.

On many older trucks, trailers, and buses with dual wheels, they use a 3-part system consisting of the wheel stud, an intermediate nut/stud which holds on the inner wheel, and an outer nut which holds on the outer wheel. Thus, on a 18-wheeler, there are 180 fasteners to remove all 18 tires (10 for each wheel).

[Brad_SwiftFur]

I can't blame you for replacing the wheel bearing and if I were doing this job, I'd go ahead and do it too. And yes, it makes sense to replace multiple studs if it takes this much effort to replace one (I would feel differently if the stud was a simpler bang-out, press in setup).

[Rusty]

Found some info- yours requires special attention.

One side [colored] of the bearing has a magnetic encoder built into it and needs to go towards the knuckle. Least on the 09 it does.

Make sure you put the right way with magnet facing the sensor or else you would have abs and light

May want to join this other Honda Fit forum.

get some diagrams as we be bus folk.

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Found some info- yours requires special attention.

One side [colored] of the bearing has a magnetic encoder built into it and needs to go towards the knuckle. Least on the 09 it does.

Make sure you put the right way with magnet facing the sensor or else you would have abs and light

May want to join this other Honda Fit forum.

get some diagrams as we be bus folk.

Copy , thanks.
I was trying to read more on their forum but couldn't find the info.
I should spend more time there before moving forward if I decide to do the job myself.

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[BlackJohn]

If one stud broke off then I would think it may have been overtorqued on installation. Some monkey with an impact wrench instead of a torque wrench. That could lead to early bearing failure also.
In that case I would go brand new on that wheel and then check the rest of the car too. best be saafe with a new baby on the way.. PRECIOUS CARGO!

John

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Found some info- yours requires special attention.

One side [colored] of the bearing has a magnetic encoder built into it and needs to go towards the knuckle. Least on the 09 it does.

Make sure you put the right way with magnet facing the sensor or else you would have abs and light

May want to join this other Honda Fit forum.

get some diagrams as we be bus folk.

Noob question here.
What if I just put a regular nonmagnetic bearing and ignore the ABS light lift sensor?

Recipe for disaster?

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[cadillackid]

BAD!! youll have no ABS and with a kid on the way... do this the right way my friend! you want your ABS to work.
-Christopher

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

BAD!! youll have no ABS and with a kid on the way... do this the right way my friend! you want your ABS to work.
-Christopher

copy that.

Seems like the hub I got should work.
Now trying to make sure the bearing is the right one ( because of the magnetic part and the ABS sensor).

Can I get the part number from Honda dealership and buy it somewhere else?

[oricha1984]

Doing my own projects is getting addicting. Damn you guys at skoolie.net !!!
Hammer drill and masonry bits for another job 😁

Still can't verify if I have right bearing, but it is confirmed that Honda bearing have a magnetic side that needs to be installed correctly.
If anyone have any ideas, let me know please 😁

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[BlackJohn]

Not a good drill, don't buy junk.

John

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by BlackJohn

Not a good drill, don't buy junk.

John

Meh, it's less than $20 with coupon. He has few tools and needs to make a few holes. Disposable, but functional.

Yard sales/estate sales are nice to raid for tools. Sometimes you hit a jackpot.

They said one side is marked with green or some color? Fit Sport is a heckuva little car.

[Brad_SwiftFur]

Originally Posted by oricha1984

Noob question here.
What if I just put a regular nonmagnetic bearing and ignore the ABS light lift sensor?

Recipe for disaster?

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Bad idea. ABS brakes are one of the cleverest inventions since sliced bread. It ranks *VERY* high on my list of "Things You Hope You Never Need But Nothing Else Will Really Do The Job." ABS, Parachutes, and Fire Extinguishers all fit into this category - you hope you never need them, but when you do, nothing else will really do the job and you need it *RIGHT NOW*.

NEVER skimp on brakes and ABS systems. Thank us later when that system saves your neck from a bad situation.

I watched a training video where they took a big truck and trailer on a wet closed course and had the driver try to stop/avoid some cones without ABS (he failed, rubber cones are resilient). They reset the test and had him try with ABS enabled. He was able to avoid the cones, but also had a shorter stopping distance.

For those of us with buses '98 and up, with air brakes (and some older buses as well, but I believe '98 was the mandatory implementation date) you'll have ABS brakes. They *DO NOT* work the same as hydraulic ABS!!!! I cannot stress this enough. Hydraulic ABS systems can cycle the pressure many times per second, giving fairly seamless operation. Air pressure takes time to travel through air lines, such quick cycling simply won't work (not to mention depleting the air pressure). They cycle more slowly, more like 60 cycles per *minute*. Driver not accustomed to this may wonder what's wrong with the brakes (when, in fact, it is working *EXACTLY* the way it was designed to).

Safe driving folks. May you never need your ABS systems.

[cadillackid]

I would just about Kill for ABS on my DEV bus (air brakes).. that darn bus is a B*TCH to panic stop.. fortunately ive never needed it for real.. but ive practiced the scenerio many a time.. an empty 7 row conventional skoolie with brand new tires.. Air drumk brakes.. is no fun to try and stop fast.. the weight transfer during the stop is worse than an empty pickup truck.. those real wheels are squalling and locking ..

I can stop shorter by slamming the poor 545 to L1, standing on the brake and adding gas pedal at the same time as i can get near full frontal braking and not completely slide the rears,..

Stab N go at the rate of 2X per second at least keeps the rearsd straight. but you run out of air quickly doing that... the less air pressure you have the less front brake you have..

my RedByrd has hydraulic ABS disc.. and i can stop that bus in the rain .almost like a car... its fantastic..
-Christopher

[oricha1984]

Originally Posted by BlackJohn

Not a good drill, don't buy junk.
John

Seems like the perfect drill for punching two holes on the side of the house

Originally Posted by Rusty

Meh, it's less than $20 with coupon. He has few tools and needs to make a few holes. Disposable, but functional.

Exactly, no point in spending money on a top end tool when I will probably use the thing twice a year to open a couple of holes.

Originally Posted by Rusty

They said one side is marked with green or some color? Fit Sport is a heckuva little car.

Yeah, that is confirmed. But not sure if the after market one will work, or if i need to buy straight from honda.

Originally Posted by Brad_SwiftFur

Bad idea. ABS brakes are one of the cleverest inventions since sliced bread.
NEVER skimp on brakes and ABS systems. Thank us later when that system saves your neck from a bad situation.

Copy that ABS important to have

Originally Posted by cadillackid

I would just about Kill for ABS on my DEV bus (air brakes).. that darn bus is a B*TCH to panic stop.
my RedByrd has hydraulic ABS disc.. and i can stop that bus in the rain .almost like a car... its fantastic..
-Christopher

Thanks for the info, I'll remember that when buying a buy in the future