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06-04-2019, 08:09 PM
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New Member
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What chassis number I have ??
Hi , I have 1975 Chevrolet Bluebird flat nose 40' , original rear engine was a 427, what is the chassis number ?? Thanks!
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06-04-2019, 08:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Originally Posted by iceman
Hi , I have 1975 Chevrolet Bluebird flat nose 40' , original rear engine was a 427, what is the chassis number ?? Thanks!
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Don't understand the question? The chassis number is the number on the frame designating who built it.
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06-04-2019, 08:41 PM
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New Member
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Just bought it, do you know the location, where I could find the chassis number , no plate inside the bus , number on the frame ? Thanks!
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06-04-2019, 08:45 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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On a 75, have no clue, there will be VIN's on it in a number of places. Look in door jambs and under the hood.
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06-04-2019, 08:53 PM
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I will have to look again , nothing yet. Thanks!
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06-05-2019, 02:54 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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A 1975 Blue Bird RE is going to be an All American. It may or may not have a Blue Bird chassis. It may or may not have an OEM vendor supplied chassis.
If it is on an OEM vendor supplied chassis it will have some OEM vendor specific identifiers. The OEM vendor's name or logo will be on the front of the bus above the front bumper if it is still there. If the OEM vendor's logo is not there the dash board will have some clues.
It is is on an OEM vendor supplied chassis the dash board will have been supplied by the OEM vendor. In other words the speedometer and gauge cluster will have been made by the OEM vendor. Somewhere on the gauges it will have the OEM vendor name or logo.
If there is no OEM vendor supplied name or logo anywhere is the driver's compartment and no evidence of a name or logo on the front of the bus then the bus chassis is a Blue Bird chassis. Blue Bird has never had a proprietary engine so all of the engines have been supplied by an OEM vendor. BB used a lot of gas engines over the years. In the 1970's a favorite was the Ford Super Duty 534 V-8 gas engine. When Ford stopped making that engine available BB started purchasing GM Tonawanda gas V-8's. Both the 366 and 427 high deck engines were available.
All of this is to say you need to discover if your bus is on a BB or an OEM vendor supplied chassis. National, OshKosh, Hendrickson, IHC, GM, Spartan, and a few other OEM vendors were still making Type 'D' bus chassis available. Various engine options were available so having a 427 would not have been unusual even if the chassis hadn't been made by GM.
Regardless of who built the incomplete chassis the VIN found up in the left front corner of the dashboard should be all you need to identify the bus.
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06-05-2019, 02:33 PM
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Hi, on the title I have chevrolet BlueBird , serial chassis is CBB8796 , with Timken axle , I
contact BB , only have the info for 5 digit serial from 1980 and up , somebody know the the frame that I have with the 4 digit number : 8796 Thanks!
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06-05-2019, 03:12 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
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Can you post a photo of the dash and driver's area?
I suppose BB can't tell from the information you have as to whether or not the bus has a BB chassis or an OEM vendor supplied chassis.
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06-05-2019, 03:56 PM
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Ok, next time I go to work on it , I will take pictures of the inside , only have 2 of the outside.I have to find the way to post it here.
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06-05-2019, 07:33 PM
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Outside pictures:[IMG] [/IMG]
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06-05-2019, 07:39 PM
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06-05-2019, 08:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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17 digit VIN numbers were not required until sometime in the '80s. My 1980 Eagle had a six digit serial number on the frame.
Your Bluebird may not have a "proper" VIN.
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06-05-2019, 08:14 PM
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I will have to check my frame for a number on it. Thanks!
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06-05-2019, 08:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
VIN numbers were not required until sometime in the '80s. My 1980 Eagle had a six digit serial number on the frame.
Your Bluebird may not have a "proper" VIN.
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VIN numbers have been required since 1954. The standardized 17 digit coding was required after 1980. Before that the different manufacturers used different formats for their numbering systems.
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06-07-2019, 09:38 PM
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New Member
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I try to put some pictues :
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