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Old 11-28-2017, 08:51 PM   #11
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The NA version of that engine produces nearly 700hp and 1700 ft. lbs. Transmission, driveline, differential... all need to go.

Front suspension would need a full rework to support the weight (~4500 lbs)

Frame would probably need some attention to keep it from twisting up under load.

Basically.. the engine may be cheap... but the swap is going to get VERY costly... VERY quickly.

If I were you... I'd look for other smaller options. May I ask why you want to swap the 8.2 in the first place? Is it a power issue or just lack of competent mechanics in the area?

Considering the 8.2 produces around 400-500 ft. lbs.. You could easily swap in a 5.9 Cummins and make more power for a lot less. Parts are cheap and easy to find (literally every parts store in the country has parts for a 5.9). Its rock solid reliable... and everyone knows how to work on them. They are very easy to come by and easy to make good power with. Not only that, but you could more then likely bolt it up to your current transmission... built some motor mounts and go with it.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:16 PM   #12
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ok I know this is a little nuts but....how about doing it as a mid engine set up with a glass(plexiglass) case around the engine, could be the "coffee" table so to speak.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:21 PM   #13
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Fitting the engine in the chassis isn't the problem. With a welder and some fab skills... you can basically make anything fit. The problem is making it work well and be useable in the real world. The fuel costs alone would make it not worth the effort. If it's something just to show off from time to time.. maybe worth it. If it's something that will actually be used... nah.
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Old 11-29-2017, 06:37 AM   #14
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What you had said before is right on in terms of what is most practical, and prudent. And what I would recommend to someone who may not have the most experiance doing a crazy build like this. However for someone with real skills this is a doable project, practical no, fuel efficient no. Can it be done to be reliable yes I think so. I have done a number of projects, and would feel very comfortable building this. I right now am in the idea stage for my bus, it has a 392V-8 international. Call me nuts but I like the old international gas engines have built a few of them. It is temping to do twin turbo with fuel injection on this one. The low compression, forged crank, long skirt block, makes them a good candidate. On the practical side I take cross country trips and need reliablity, as well as something I can get parts for on the road if need be. Build anything to far outside the box and parts become a real problem away from home. So realistically fuel injection and some other minor things, but no turbos might be what I really do.

This fellow needs to be thinking of all these things, and to what purpose the build is for, and what is his skill level? Of course I hope he has what it takes and does it just because it can be done.
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:07 PM   #15
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damn man now you done it now you done it,i want one now thts inpressive my vision would go good with that 16 v 71? 92? thats 2 v8's in series with a one peice crank ive put them in boats but i never thought it would fit in my bus mate that up to 18 double over 4:10 gears 5:53 gears now id have to bolt my paint on
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:37 PM   #16
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As mentioned above, 16v71 is an ENORMOUS engine, any of the old timers know if they even put them in an OTR application? 8v71 is a great bus-size motor, I would want a Tugboat or something for a 16...
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:04 PM   #17
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I've seen 12v71's in ORT application but never a 16v71.

I imagine one of those swapped into and RE bus looking similar to the VW van with a 350 Chevy in the back. Just a larger scale.....
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:58 PM   #18
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I've seen 12v71's in ORT application but never a 16v71.

I imagine one of those swapped into and RE bus looking similar to the VW van with a 350 Chevy in the back. Just a larger scale.....
I'd settle for a 12v!
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