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Old 07-05-2018, 04:29 PM   #1
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Post can a zf5 be put behind a t444e and replace a 545 allison

Can a zf5 be put behind a t444e and replace a 545 allison I would think it would bolt right up anybody ever done this?
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:59 PM   #2
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trans swap

transmission
output yoke for the driveshaft
clutch pedal or pedal assembly
clutch master
clutch slave
possibly modify, build, and or install transmission crossmember
Flywheel
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possibly some sort of plate that goes on the back side of the engine to allow the transmission to bolt on.

I would recommend buying a truck with bad engine and a good manual transmission, or some thing like that. You may find fifty little things on that truck you end up using.

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Old 07-05-2018, 07:22 PM   #3
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what kind of bell does a ZF5 have? the 444E has an SAE2 thats been adapted down to SAE3.. you may have to change the complete flywheel housing to a different type.. along with the starter and flywheel if the ZF5 isnt an SAE2 or SAE3....

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:24 AM   #4
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FWIW: Ford used the ZF5 behind the 7.3 with good success in pickups.

I would imagine that a ZF5 from a 7.3 equipped Ford would bolt right up to the T444.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:50 AM   #5
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No idea on fitment but did find this...


"According to Dieselhub.com there were two types of ZF5s produced: the ZF S5-42 for the 6.9/7.3 IDIs and the ZF S5-47 for the 7.3 Powerstrokes up to '97. Max input torque rating on a ZF S5-42 was 420 ft-lbs. of Torque whereas the ZF S5-47 could handle 470 ft-lbs. of Torque."
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Old 07-06-2018, 11:07 AM   #6
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You need to turn your 444e into a ford to use their transmissions, flywheel housing and starter and flywheel all have to be ford for a ford trans to work.

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Old 07-15-2018, 10:01 PM   #7
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zf5 trans in a full size six window bus

I have everything from a f450 adapter plate flywheel clutch assembly and slave cylinder,master cylinder,I was told that the input and or output shaft on the trans wouldn't hold up in a bus but it only a six window bus 24 foot long I think with the hp and torque rating the trans has it should be ok my t444e is only rated at 175hp and I think the torque rating is 440 not sure
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