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Old 06-07-2017, 12:42 PM   #1
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I have a 1996 DT466 its still the mechanical engine. Its the 230hp variant. It runs and starts super but there is white smoke I notice at idle. The fuel must be 2-3 years old, could this be the fuel? Any other ideas?
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Blue smoke is oil, black is unburnt fuel, white is coolant

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white can be low temperature / low compression.. if you notice coolant loss it could be coolant, but diesels will smoke white if the injector spray patterns are off also..

I would put a bottle of Diesel-Kleen in it and some fresh fuel and drivei t like you stole it for a while to get it warmed up real good.. and then see howq it does the next day when its cold.
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Your post reminds me... to clarify, black smoke is scorched uncombusted fuel, white can be uncombusted fuel from lack heat and compression as Cadillac says

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That's correct. White smoke is unburned fuel, blue is engine oil getting into the combustion chamber and black is as you said excessive unburned fuel.

I'd drive that old fuel out first. The fuel treatment goes without mention.
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Check your fuel filters as well after you burn the old fuel. Diesel is a breeding ground for bacteria if there's any moisture contamination

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True the fuel filters are likely full of goop with that old fuel in there, but then the white smoke indicates fuel is actually getting to the cylinders.
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Always good to check all the filters if it's been sitting that long. Check the ph on the cooling system as well to make sure it's not going to eat your liner o-rings like mine did

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Old 06-07-2017, 03:53 PM   #9
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Anyone try this method of checking acidity?

Begin with a cold engine. Remove the radiator cap and start the engine.

Set your digital multimeter to DC volts at 20 volts or less.

When the engine reaches operating temperature, insert the positive probe directly into the coolant.

Rev the engine to 2,000 rpm and place the negative probe on the negative battery terminal.

If the digital meter reads .4 volts or less, your coolant is in good condition.

If it's greater than .4 volts, the electrolysis additives are exhausted, and you may be in the market for a new radiator, a water pump or a heater core in the future. All of those are far more expensive than a simple coolant change.
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This post is about diesel smoking causes and repairs, not testing antifreeze PH. Please stay on topic.
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This post is about diesel smoking causes and repairs, not testing antifreeze PH. Please stay on topic.
checking coolant is actually a good part of troubleshooting a smoking engine.. its possible that he could have coolant going into the cylinders or have firing into the coolant jacket causing either loss of compression or smoking.
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Let us know what your next step ends up being and what you find. We can move from there. I'll hold off on any further smoke out of my a$$ until then 😎

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Here's possible causes straight from my 466 engine manual.

Some of these will not apply since you have a mechanical engine.

Cause

• Cold engine

• No Intake Air Heater (IAH) operation

• Poor quality fuel

• EGR stuck open on startup

• EGR cooler leaking coolant into exhaust

• Loose or failed injector

• Bent connecting rods

• Worn piston rings

• Low compression

• Coolant leaking into the intake manifold through

the cylinder head cup plugs

• Coolant leaking into combustion chamber

• Aerated fuel

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Moderator....... This is my post!

Secondly, the coolant is new and fully flushed out a few months ago.

Move on please.
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Secondly, the coolant is new and fully flushed out a few months ago.

Move on please.
Having a good big picture of what's going on with fluids and everything else makes diagnosis easier to perform and rules some things out. My last post should have everything you need to start

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Secondly, the coolant is new and fully flushed out a few months ago.

Move on please.
You move on. You know it all anyhow, so why ask us?
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East Coast CB, I don't know what your problem is. The topic went from smoke to antifreeze PH, so I corrected it. If that wasn't done soon the topic would be about politics or something.........

Now, you say, "why ask us", like you are speaking on behalf of everyone here. I am asking for advice, yes. But not from you.
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Well now that we're getting off topic again, is my list enough or do you want more info on something else?

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You can nix anything about egr, because his engine won't have it.

As far as the rest of the stuff said. If the op wants to keep stuff on topic, that's his decision, and you should respect him for it. Getting huffy puffy about him wanting it that way isn't necessary. If you're upset about it, move on to somewhere else and ignore the post.
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