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Old 06-18-2010, 02:00 AM   #11
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This thread is kinda like looking at a high school picture with a 70's hair style.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:46 PM   #12
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:31 PM   #13
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I posted on a thread that hasn't been responded to since September. That doesn't mean it isn't worth revisiting. On many forums people complain that someone posted without doing a search. If that person does a search, finds a pertainent thread and posts on it, he will get a comment about posting on an old thread.I think reading through old threads and making comments about things not covered is a good thing.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:20 PM   #14
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You aren't getting where I'm coming from and I'm too tired to explain.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:39 PM   #15
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Then we can talk about getting the 360 to move mountains. Lets take the pump to a shop, and get around 400cc's and add 4k rpm governor springs, then add head studs, HD rod bolts, stiffer valve springs, and compound turbos.
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Well, when you feel better.

Anyway, I really like that rear deck in your gallery. Brilliant. I wish i had seen that before I welded my hitch up. Now I'm making steps that slide into the receiver.
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Then we can talk about getting the 360 to move mountains. Lets take the pump to a shop, and get around 400cc's and add 4k rpm governor springs, then add head studs, HD rod bolts, stiffer valve springs, and compound turbos.
Might hurt my FS-5406 and it's 560ft# torque rating. I wouldn't mind a wastegated turbo so it would spool up with more enthusiasm though.

I really like to drive 65mph. Problem is, it's 2600rpm (which is fine) but there no downshifting until it hits 50mph. That's a long wait, and a low speed for maximum power. I think maximum power at 55-60 in 5th and cruising closer to 2000 in 6th would make it seem stronger. 4.11s are about right.

My competiton on the road is semi's. We have twice as big of steps between gears. We have more rpm range, but all of these new engines have absolutely flat torque bands--or worse, torque rise designed in so they don't lose rpm on hills. Nothing sucks worse than knowing you have a truck beat in the power/weight, but him pulling away on a 3% while your tach floats down to 2100 and hangs there. You can't shift without slowing down to 2,000rpm. A half-gear bump-down would be awesome. Or a whole lotta more power, which might endanger the tranny. I think on the average hill, a little less axle gear would be the thing--just so I could get down to 5th sooner.
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Well, when you feel better.

Anyway, I really like that rear deck in your gallery. Brilliant. I wish i had seen that before I welded my hitch up. Now I'm making steps that slide into the receiver.
Anyone thinking about a deck like mine, don't build the steps hanging down like that. They will scrape. Have something that will flip over when not in use.
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I have owned both engines. I agree that the dt360 is probably built heavier duty.

Both engines use the same injection pumps

Both engines have identical displacement

Both engines come in identical HP ratings

Both engines can have the hp and governor "turned up" for free

5.9 cummins gets much better fuel economy.

I drove over 30K miles with a dt360 bus, and got mostly between 7-8 mpg. In a nearly identical bus with same transmission and cumming 5.9 i got over 10mpg every time.

5.9 cummins and mt643 trans and good rear end gear ratio at 60mph can get over 12 mpg in a tc2000. Philbus had this setup, while i had my dt360. He got about 50% better fuel economy than i did on our 2.5K mile roadtrip. (he had better trans, and better rear end gears and the 5.9)

My preference is for the 5.9 simply because of the fuel economy.
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hike up the timing on the DT360, and see what it does.
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