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Old 10-30-2016, 07:14 PM   #1
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Engine Leaks... Cause for concern?

Hey Guys,

So I took our bus to a mechanic to have the engine looked at (preventative, no issues that I could tell).

The repair shop came back with some pretty substantial cost estimates for work to be done. Main issues are oil leaks, though it doesn't appear to be severe.

The mechanic seems to think the front engine cover might be leaking oil. They estimate 28 hrs labor (?!) to remove, install, and repair.

I'm no mechanic, so I'm not sure if that's a reasonable number or not. That being said, 28 hrs for the following seems excessive for a shop that specializes in diesel equipment: "R&I DT466 Front and Rear Section with Auto Trans and/or Trans Oil Cooler - [Includes R&I components for access and gasket"

The guys at the shop were nice enough, and they deserve to be paid what they're worth. I just also don't want to be taken advantage of.

Any opinions are welcome. I've attached the estimate as well.


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Old 10-30-2016, 08:17 PM   #2
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Dunno - that would buy a lot of oil. And some cardboard to put under the engine.
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:21 PM   #3
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Dunno - that would buy a lot of oil. And some cardboard to put under the engine.
That's kind of what I'm thinking as well. Fixing oil leaks for 3x more than the cost of buying the bus seems a little crazy- but I don't want to build it out only to have big engine trouble down the line.
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:29 PM   #4
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I guess it depends on how bad the leaks are.. if you are dumping a quart of oil on the ground sitting over night id be really concerned.. or if you are making a lot of smoke because its slinging enough oil on the exhauct to make smoke id be concenred.. or if its causing you to use a quart of oil every couple hundred miles id be concerned..

but if you are finding little puddles or spots under the bus after you drive it and let it sit I would say who cares..

Diesels leak opil.. at least lots do... ever notice what the trucker parking spots look like at rest areas or truck stops?

both of my busses leak a small amount of oil... ive run close to 10,000 Miles on the DEV and had no ill effects other than some oil spots on the ground and a few drips of oil noticed around the rear seal after I run it...

in fact I can drive it 1000 miles and not have to add oil... if I wanted to fix my leaks on that DT-360 a lot of what you saw on your repair bill is what I would have to do to mine .. (remove and install, tranny, etc).... im sure there are others here that have been running busses all over and had a few drops of oil without issues..

like any commercial truck... you learn how much it uses and then you check it each day before you drive as part of your pre-check walkaround...

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Hey Guys,

So I took our bus to a mechanic to have the engine looked at (preventative, no issues that I could tell).

The repair shop came back with some pretty substantial cost estimates for work to be done. Main issues are oil leaks, though it doesn't appear to be severe.

The mechanic seems to think the front engine cover might be leaking oil. They estimate 28 hrs labor (?!) to remove, install, and repair.

I'm no mechanic, so I'm not sure if that's a reasonable number or not. That being said, 28 hrs for the following seems excessive for a shop that specializes in diesel equipment: "R&I DT466 Front and Rear Section with Auto Trans and/or Trans Oil Cooler - [Includes R&I components for access and gasket"

The guys at the shop were nice enough, and they deserve to be paid what they're worth. I just also don't want to be taken advantage of.

Any opinions are welcome. I've attached the estimate as well.


That's out of control. Stop by a actual bus barn and leave a note on there board. Find a guy to do it in his off time. Or and run a ad on CL. get this labor down to $20 an hour and buy the parts off ebay. Then do yourself a huge favor and help if he'll let you.
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Yeah, repairs can get way pricey. Not uncommon to pay more for a repair or tires than for a whole bus. Just be glad you don't have a mercedes or Cat!
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Old 10-31-2016, 08:58 AM   #7
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Oil leaks

Something is very sketchy here, 28 hours to do a front cover? Don.t think so. I have worked on these engines and that is a LOT for work that they THINK is wrong. You can just about get an inframe done for that. Get a second opinion.
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Old 10-31-2016, 09:02 AM   #8
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With the proper equipment, R/R trans is about 4-5 hours, plus any seals you change.
Personally, I think you are being way overcharged.
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With the proper equipment, R/R trans is about 4-5 hours, plus any seals you change.
Personally, I think you are being way overcharged.
Front seal, not rear.
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What is the labor for r/r trans for then? Are they removing the entire engine to do a reseal?
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