Not to be nitpicky but 1998+ is DT446E, not DT466. The mechanical is the good one while the E model is okay in terms of performance but life expectancy is about 50%.
The 1997 would be perfect if it only had air brakes. I will be towing so I feel pneumatic brakes are a necessity. I'm also a CDL A holder so legalities are no issue either.
As for the 1968, that's cool as hell but not what I'm looking for right off the bat. My mind could be changed however if the 68 had a 12v71 in her 😉.
Originally Posted by cadillackid
wow those are some high price busses.. at least they seem that way...
a couple weeks ago I saw some DT-466 mechanical 65 PAS wayne dognose.. they were at an auction where I acquired my second bus. those busses did get bid up twice or 3X what the DT-466E's did..
down south when mechasnicals come on the market it seems they get bid up quickly by Exporters who send them to ??? countries...
you can find some of them up north, however many schools up north are forced to unload busses at 10-15 years due to rust-away so you'll have a tougher time finding them.
you just have to scour the auctions and dealers looking for what you want ... I think you have a possibility of still finding a good mechanical bus out there...
Bus dealers are a little too proud of their inventory. There is a joint down here in Texas asking $12,995 for a 1996 AMTran 65pax conventional with DT466 and MT543 transmission and hydraulic brakes and 169,000 miles.
Specifically, I'm looking at private sellers, eBay, and other auction services. I've spent a cumulative 24-36 hours looking and can't seem to find any 1995-1998 International 65+ pax conventional nose busses with the DT466 mechanical engine and air brakes. I really just want someone to say if they have seen anything in that criteria so I know to keep looking or settle for 444e and motor swap.
Also, if anybody could tell me how hard it is to motor swap a flat nose bus, I may just be able to swing that too. It seems like it would be a chore. I assume having to lift the front of the bus 6 ft off the ground and remove the front axle to get the motor out from the bottom. And how much extra room is there around the engine? The motor I would swap for is about 12 inches taller than a DT466. I suppose I could go with a rear engine if I went flat as well. Any input?