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Old 10-27-2016, 09:50 PM   #1
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glow or no glow plugs

looking at my dash and not but driven this bus but home. I don't see a glow plug light? Do these dt466 not have glow plugs.

It fires right off after not running for a few days so i think it doesn't have them. To lazy to look.
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:06 PM   #2
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the DT-360 and mechanical DT-466 do not have glow plugs or grid heaters..

if you live in a cold climate it should have a block heater to plug it in...

ive seen people start the DT's at 10 degrees outside just on their own though..

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Old 10-27-2016, 10:18 PM   #3
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:26 PM   #4
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Ive got a DT-360 and a T-444E.. each has its purpose and merit..

the beauty of my T-444E is that my bus has nop doghouse.. this my legs dont burn when driving on hot summer days.. and I dont have that massive doghouse in the interior..

the DT-360 is super simplistic and easy to work on.. plus can be rebuilt in-frame if it wears out...

the DT-360 is super strong and powerful off the line at Low RPM/ but runs out of steam fairly quickly..

the T-444E gives me better highway power when im at the top range of the RPM band.. and also responds quicker on the foot when i need a little go to pass a car or truck..

the turbo spools much quicker on the T-444E.. buit the DT-360 has much more low end torque so it gets the bus moving quickly when i need ot pull into traffic..

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Old 10-27-2016, 10:32 PM   #5
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Is the 360 the old ford 6.9 liter
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:15 PM   #6
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Is the 360 the old ford 6.9 liter
AFIK: The Ford 6.9 was a naturally aspirated V8. The DT360 is a turbocharged inline six. Same family with the DT408, DT466 and DT508.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:46 PM   #7
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DT360 is an International 5.9L
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:10 AM   #8
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what makes it a 508? stroked crank, injector size and pistons. I read you can build it when you over haul. I did realize this six went smaller.
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Old 10-28-2016, 07:21 AM   #9
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I think a DT360 can be stroked but im not sure.. i believe people stroke the 466..

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Old 10-28-2016, 08:28 AM   #10
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the beauty of my T-444E is that my bus has nop doghouse.. this my legs dont burn when driving on hot summer days.. and I dont have that massive doghouse in the interior..
This ended up being a big plus for putting two passenger seats at the front of the bus. There's plenty of room up there to work with. I think it's extra important for those with shorties. Even though I occasionally get DT466e envy, my T444e does all I ask of it And yes, I meant to put that 'e' there. While not in tune with the vast majority here, I prefer an electrically controlled engine. Me and the electric pixies just get along..


A funny thing. I was just thinking to myself not a half hour ago that it'd be nice to see a comparison review off your DT360 vs T444e. And then here it is!



As for glow plugs, it seems that inline sixes are less likely to need glow plugs than V8s. Something about the stroke length and surface area for heat transfer, I think.
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