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Old 12-05-2019, 02:51 PM   #1
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Help, trying to remove steering wheel.

I'm trying to pull the steering wheel on my 04 IC 3800 flat nose.
I've take the nut off and all and tried like mad to use a steering wheel puller even beating on the under side of the steering wheel with tension on it via the puller and it won't budge.
Any ideas what my problem is??

Thanks for looking and even more appreciate to those that offer me up some advise.
Can't use the torch to heat it up blame it....
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:16 PM   #2
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What puller are you using?
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:40 PM   #3
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What puller are you using?
Used a crows foot style.
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Used a crows foot style.
Is that the type with two bolts that thread into the steering wheel hub?
I'd need a pic of the steering wheel to give better suggestions BUT I can say:

Leave the steering wheel nut in place a few threads. Leave room for the wheel to release but with the amt of tension you're describing it can easily break a nose or even a jaw when it comes loose!
(and I don't know anybody here well enough to want that...)


Can you get a bearing puller under the hub and then use a gear puller?
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I just swapped out the steering wheel on my 3800 last week......this is the loaner tool I 'borrowed' (you buy it, return it within 45 days, they refund your full purchase price).

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...g+wheel+puller

This is the 5th or 6th wheel I've swapped, but the first in a bus, and it was a lot harder to break it loose than the others ( Chevelle, 2 Mustangs, Blazer, Jeep). I used a lot of WD40. Put tension on it, smacked the backside with a rubber mallet, loosened tension, smacked it back down. Repeated 3 times, on the 4th cycle it popped loose.

Let me know if you need an extra 18" stock wheel.
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Is that the type with two bolts that thread into the steering wheel hub?
I'd need a pic of the steering wheel to give better suggestions BUT I can say:

Leave the steering wheel nut in place a few threads. Leave room for the wheel to release but with the amt of tension you're describing it can easily break a nose or even a jaw when it comes loose!
(and I don't know anybody here well enough to want that...)


Can you get a bearing puller under the hub and then use a gear puller?
"Is that the type with two bolts that thread into the steering wheel hub?" Pretty much yeah.
I don't think I can get anything under the hub/

My desk is clamped to the wheel now, I'll have to take everything off it to get a pic, I'll take it all down and give it a try again in another day or 2.
Thanks for the advise though, didn't really think about it popping off and hitting me....
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I just swapped out the steering wheel on my 3800 last week......this is the loaner tool I 'borrowed' (you buy it, return it within 45 days, they refund your full purchase price).

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...g+wheel+puller

This is the 5th or 6th wheel I've swapped, but the first in a bus, and it was a lot harder to break it loose than the others ( Chevelle, 2 Mustangs, Blazer, Jeep). I used a lot of WD40. Put tension on it, smacked the backside with a rubber mallet, loosened tension, smacked it back down. Repeated 3 times, on the 4th cycle it popped loose.

Let me know if you need an extra 18" stock wheel.
That's pretty much the same puller style I've been using. I've pulled steering wheels off all sorts of other vehicles but never had this kind of fight... I didn't use any spray but I did smack it plenty on the back side with a rubber hammer with ALOT of tension on it from the puller.
I'll get some spray and give it another try in the next day or 2.

Hopefully I don't damage the steering wheel LOL, I appreciate ya buddy.
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I had a steering wheel pop off and bloodied my nose and lip once.
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I had a steering wheel pop off and bloodied my nose and lip once.
How I didn't learn this the hard way is beyond me.
Look at how stupid I was doing this one day Shoot and I knew better to start with,.
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well- on another note its always nice to have a face and a voice to go with a profile on here. Feel like I know you a bit better just from that 1:26 vid.
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well- on another note its always nice to have a face and a voice to go with a profile on here. Feel like I know you a bit better just from that 1:26 vid.
LOL. Bearded bald headed hick/redneck.
Superglue fixed me right up, works great on wounds and if it's deep just throw some duct tape over it after gluing.... Not kidding.
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LOL. Bearded bald headed hick/redneck.
Superglue fixed me right up, works great on wounds and if it's deep just throw some duct tape over it after gluing.... Not kidding.
Nah, you sound like a regular guy to me- just with that TN accent haha.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:41 PM   #13
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Well shoot -- I was born in Knox county!

Yup, my last deployment I was impressed -- the group maintenance commander routinely said: "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast"
I had 425 guyz/galz on the flt line doing maintenance 24/7 and no injuries my entire 7 month rotation! I am extremely proud of that.

Anyway... this is the bearing puller I was referring to. link is just for the pic, never mind the cost, a parts store will loan/rent you one.
https://www.zoro.com/proto-proto-eas...hoC8RUQAvD_BwE

Get this behind the hub and use a gear puller against the bearing separator.
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I had a steering wheel pop off and bloodied my nose and lip once.
Hopefully not while you were driving?
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Hopefully not while you were driving?
Nope. Just didn't think about what I was doing.
I had one bust my lip once when I was a kid. A quick release wheel I was playing with finally released. It was the Snickers car at some nascar event in the 80's.
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whenever i pulled a wheel i always just backed the nut off about 3 tiurns or so and used a harmonic balancer puller threaded into the wheel and hit it with an impact wrench... the impacting on the balancer tended to help jarr the wheel loose..



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Old 12-06-2019, 10:52 AM   #17
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That puller should work. Sometimes I've seen people try and use a 3 jaw puller, and those always seem to bind up and not work.

I usually use an impact on the bolt when removing, I know you're not supposed to, but something about the hammering/vibrations helps to break the press/tension.

One time I had to smack the puller bolt squarely with a mini sledge and that popped it off. So if you don't have an impact, or are at the end of your rope, you can try that.

Another thing to try would be to hit it with an air hammer. Go around it on the wheel just outside of the shaft. All of this is done while the puller has tension on it.
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SNIP...

One time I had to smack the puller bolt squarely with a mini sledge and that popped it off. So if you don't have an impact, or are at the end of your rope, you can try that.

...SNIP
Careful -- a collapsible steering column (every car since the mid '70's!) can easily have it's internal shear pins ruined by this action.

I don't know if bus columns have the same collapsing feature but considering how close the wheel comes to my gut in my bus, I expect they do!
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Nope. Just didn't think about what I was doing.
I had one bust my lip once when I was a kid. A quick release wheel I was playing with finally released. It was the Snickers car at some nascar event in the 80's.
Well that sucks..... Ahh the good ol 80s... I was a young brat then myself.
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