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Old 11-24-2014, 04:20 PM   #11
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Re: International Problems? Ask me!

Do you have the ecm out of the bus already? If not, just turn the key on and use the sae datalink and some sort of usb connector. We use a nexiq usb link but I'm sure there are other manufacturers. If you have it out of the bus you'll have to get the a pinout for the connectors and then do something similar to this http://tucrrc.utulsa.edu/CumminsWithoutWiring.html . Granted this if for a cummins but it gives you the idea of what you have to do.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:41 PM   #12
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Re: International Problems? Ask me!

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Do you have the ecm out of the bus already? If not, just turn the key on and use the sae datalink and some sort of usb connector. We use a nexiq usb link but I'm sure there are other manufacturers. If you have it out of the bus you'll have to get the a pinout for the connectors and then do something similar to this http://tucrrc.utulsa.edu/CumminsWithoutWiring.html . Granted this if for a cummins but it gives you the idea of what you have to do.
I have found the diagnostic port inside the bus (ECM still in place) - I thought I had to connect to the 60 pin serial port on the ECM which was confusing me - and I'm sure I can find the cable to go from that to the Nexiq box and then to USB, but does Nexiq (or equivalent) provide the software to read and write settings on a DT466e?

What is ServiceMaxx and Diamond Logic Builder and International MD and how do they relate to the Navistar DT466e (are Navistar and International the same thing?)
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:38 PM   #13
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Re: International Problems? Ask me!

All the necessary communication lines that come out of the 60 pin connector end up going to the datalink port. So if the pcm is still hooked up to the bus, just use that. That way you don't have to search out individual pins in order to turn on the ecm. Nexiq has software to communicate with the ecm, as far as what the capabilities of that software is, I'm not sure. We originally purchased the nexiq software suite and tried to troubleshoot with it, but I was unimpressed and it would frequently crash. So now we just use the nexiq usb interface adapter with the OEM software. Servicemaxx is the factory software program that your dealership would use. I think diamond logic builder is a more simplified program that fleets use to read codes and perform repairs. Not sure what International MD is either. Servicemaxx is the only program I've ever had any familiarity with, and with it we could change any parameter that we wanted. I don't know what it costs exactly, but I don't think a subscription to servicemaxx would be a very wise investment just to change the speed limit on one bus. Not only that, but the learning curve you would face in trying to use it would also not be worth it. Unless you can't have the bus unmovable for any length of time, It would be easier for you to send your existing pcm to a place with the software already purchased, and people that are familiar with the program to do it.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:08 PM   #14
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Re: International Problems? Ask me!

Yes I found the Deutsch 9 PIN diagnostic port. I am watching eBay for a second hand Nexiq unit. Rather than send my ECM to the US (I may never get it back!) I plan to buy a second hand one and get that reprogrammed - but I need to read the existing settings first! I have a copy of ServiceMaxx installed on my PC (complains I don't have an RP1210A cable) and I don't have a username/password for ServiceMaxx
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Old 04-09-2016, 03:14 PM   #15
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Ive got an older loadstar 1603 factory converted and Im looking to find out as much s I can about it. Having a hard time finding information about part numbers and the like,
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:09 AM   #16
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Old 05-01-2016, 10:04 AM   #17
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Huh. Usually the engine type shows up. This is all I could find (perhaps someone with better VIN-FU could do more):

Manufacturer Navistar International Trans Corp.
Make International
Model Year 2011
Model 3700
Vehicle Type City Transit Bus
Chassis 4x2 FBC School Bus Chassis
Drive Line Type 4x2
Brake System Hydraulic
GVWR Class Less than 6,000lbs.
Country US Produced
Assy. Plant Springfield, Ohio
Body Type Incomplete Bus
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:54 PM   #18
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2002 International 7.3 Governor

I have a 2002 International 7.3 and the Governor was preset at 55mph from when it was a school bus. Do you know how to disconnect, or turn it off or is it set up in the computer? I would appreciate any advice.Thanks
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:33 PM   #19
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that wont help
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