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Old 03-12-2018, 01:26 PM   #11
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Another bus I've been looking at is this one.

It's a 2003 International 3800 T444E.

As far as I'm aware, it has air brakes, minimal rust and only 160,000KM. It's diesel.

It's had recent work done to the fuel line and injector, but it does however need brake lines, pads and springs.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:07 PM   #12
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If you have to buy one or the other, take the '03 and ask the bus barn to complete the work needed before purchasing. If not, you may need an expensive tow home or to a shop. I have to ass-u-me it has hydraulic brakes since they claim it needs brake lines. Air brake systems usually use nylon lines and aren't as susceptible to damage and decay.

That first bus, they'd have to pay me to remove it from their lot.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:18 PM   #13
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As you asked ...

I found what I was looking for, but it's a lot more bus than you are looking at.

If I were looking for something slightly less high-spec, I'd want at least a DT466 engine (they fitted that engine in all types of buses), any gearbox but the AT545 (although it wouldn't necessarily be a deal-breaker) and air-brakes.

I found it helpful to make two bus specs.

The first had a wishlist of everything I wanted in a bus.

The second had my minimum spec in every area I had listed.

I looked hard at every bus that didn't detract from my ideal bus in more than two areas, and didn't fall below the minimum in any area.

At a glance I was able to rule out nearly every listed bus, but when the right one appeared, it jumped off the page.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:34 PM   #14
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Yeah 2003 or before is usually the goal so you don't have to worry about emissions controls
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